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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 26 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

Also, Raspberry Pi first got popular because of the size and cost. Now it's popular because it's popular. Not hating on them, I think they're cool, but they're not cheap any more. Especially with the scalping.

Getting x86_64 based systems is going to mean much less headache. Unless you truly truly need the size I wouldn't consider getting a Pi or other SBC. Just go to literally any used marketplace (Facebook, Craigslist, etc) and get anything.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 2 points 6 hours ago

Pi is popular with me because it's time efficient. Meaning: when I am trying to get it to do something, it takes less of my time to make the thing actually happen on Pi hardware as compared with most of the other small / embedded alternatives. Notable recent exception: ESPHome on ESP32 hardware, but even there the more limited variation of Raspberry hardware makes it similar to those fruity phones, MP3 players and computers - since there are a limited number of variations, you can usually find information specific to EXACTLY your setup, instead of having to infer from something almost the same, but figure out little wrinkles here and there due to differences between what you are working with and what you are reading about on the internet.

[–] Patch@feddit.uk 5 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

but they're not cheap any more

People say this, but they really are still cheap.

The original Raspberry Pi Model B launched for £22 in 2012. The entry level Raspberry Pi 5 is £46, but adjusted for inflation that's only £32 in 2012 money. So only £10 more expensive in real terms.

Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W is only £14.40, which is only £10 in 2012 money. Compare this to the original Raspberry Pi Model A, which launched for £16.

People look at the headline cost of the high end RPi 5s (£115 for the 16GB model, £76 for the 8GB), but fail to recognise that there was nothing comparable to these in the Raspberry Pi lineup before, and these are not the only models in the Raspberry Pi lineup now.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 2 points 6 hours ago

There was the supply shortage price spike, they really were stupid expensive then if you supported the hoarder/scalpers.

Since that has cleared... most of the Pi price increases (in inflation adjusted dollars) can be attributed to improved features like more RAM, or people acknowledging that having a good dedicated $20 power supply is preferable to dealing with the flakiness of that old phone charger you found under the bed.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 9 hours ago

Inflation adjustment doesn't really tell the whole story though, it's not like salaries have gone up by the same amount. Regardless, I don't like dealing with the Zero unless I specifically need something that tiny. It's just too annoying. Don't get me wrong! They're cool! I'm just saying unless I really need a Pi Zero I wouldn't wanna work with one. I'd rather work with x86_64 than Arm. Like even just getting Java working was really tricky on Zero. Much like a microcontroller has limitations for what you can run on them but they have other benefits, Zeros aren't really general purpose.

So yeah, dirt cheap used laptop for general purpose server beats out dirt cheap Pi in my book.

[–] dariusj18@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

10£ more, or 50% more expensive?

[–] Patch@feddit.uk 1 points 3 hours ago

Sure, but the specs aren't directly comparable.

They also still manufacture the RPi 4, which starts at £33- which is £23 in 2012 money.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 3 points 6 hours ago

Don't like the expensive version? Get a Zero 2 W which outspecs the original by a wide margin.

[–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

That's only true for the high-end Pi 5. Lower-powered models like the zero 2 are still cheap, and they're a lot easier to find than a few years ago.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 16 hours ago

Which part? Because the "it's not x86" is even more annoying to deal with on Pi Zero lol.