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[–] confusedpuppy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I think there are too many people on this planet. I see often people stating that this is not the case so this is often something people are vocal about.

Or maybe a more accurate way to briefly describe my point of view. I think there are too many people on this planet based on our current ways of consumption and destruction of resources. There may be an argument for a planet with over 8 billion people with the ability to provide food, shelter and all other aspects of life and social security that does not affect our environment so harshly and negatively but even then I just don't see it.

With so many people, we seem to have lost the ability to our right to roam. Something that I think is important for multiple reasons. People used to migrate for a number of reasons. Seasonal changes, disaster, allowing areas to regrow and repopulate in regards to land and wildlife, travelling to where wildlife is excessive, planned/controlled fires and so many other reasons.

When we settle into these large cities, we lose the ability to roam and ignore all the local environmental benefits of people roaming. The land has to be reshaped into providing for a constant, permanent settlement. The cities require outside resources to grow and maintain itself and it's much harder to see and understand the resource demand when we are no longer directly involved in maintaining the land. We are now focused on maintaining a city just for us humans.

I think this point of view is scary or intimidating to some people because it means giving up many modern conveniences. As if life can not be lived any other way.

I guess I also come from a point of view where I'd rather live a short dangerous life full of wonder compared to a long, sterile life of loneliness and resentful anger. Fuck borders, they are as made up as money, gender and religion. I want to roam and be free.

[–] iii@mander.xyz 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

With so many people, we seem to have lost the ability to our right to roam.

I have not heard that point of view before. Thank you for sharing, I think it's quite interesting.

I would like to note that even in medieval history, with a much smaller population, roaming resulted in clashes and wars :(

[–] confusedpuppy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My perspectives come from the indigenous histories I have learned about through my life. It took many years, multiple countries and surprisingly some YouTube videos for me to get to this point.

Understanding how recent history has affected indigenous populations through colonialism and exploitation has been... Depressing.

I also tend to want to look outside of European history. As a not "white" person who grew up in a "white" country, I've had European history shoved into my life in every way possible. There's a broader world to learn from and appreciate.

I don't think clashes between different peoples can be avoided entirely, but the scale of environmental damage would never be as destructive as what we are witnessing today.

[–] iii@mander.xyz 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thanks for sharing this idea. I'll have to think about it some further, it's really interesting!

[–] confusedpuppy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you have interest in indigenous histories, I can recommend the YouTube channel Cogito. A lot of their earlier works give a nice overview of different indigenous cultures.

How potatoes saved the world and How aboriginal Australians made Australia are two videos that really help connect some of my thoughts and experiences on what I had learned about indigenous history, especially in regards to colonialism.

[–] iii@mander.xyz 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

I've thought about it and I think you're right. People feeling caged is what causes so much pain. Pain they then inflict on others.

[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 5 points 2 days ago

Due to low fertility rates the population of earth will soon start to decrease so in that sense this particular issue is going to solve itself. Though that comes with a load of related issues.