this post was submitted on 12 Jun 2025
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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards
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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.
Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.
Posting Guidelines
All posts should follow this basic structure:
- Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards?
- What sanction did they impose (e.g. community ban, instance ban, removed comment)?
- Provide a screenshot of the relevant modlog entry (don’t de-obfuscate mod names).
- Provide a screenshot and explanation of the cause of the sanction (e.g. the post/comment that was removed, or got you banned).
- Explain why you think its unfair and how you would like the situation to be remedied.
Rules
- Post only about bans or other sanctions that you have received from a mod or admin.
- Don’t use private communications to prove your point. We can’t verify them and they can be faked easily.
- Don’t deobfuscate mod names from the modlog with admin powers.
- Don’t harass mods or brigade comms. Don’t word your posts in a way that would trigger such harassment and brigades.
- Do not downvote posts if you think they deserved it. Use the comment votes (see below) for that.
- You can post about power trippin’ in any social media, not just lemmy. Feel free to post about reddit or a forum etc.
- If you are the accused PTB, while you are welcome to respond, please do so within the relevant post.
Expect to receive feedback about your posts, they might even be negative.
Make sure you follow this instance's code of conduct. In other words we won't allow bellyaching about being sanctioned for hate speech or bigotry.
YTPB matrix channel: For real-time discussions about bastards or to appeal mod actions in YPTB itself.
Some acronyms you might see.
- PTB - Power-Tripping Bastard: The commenter agrees with you this was a PTB mod.
- YDI - You Deserved It: The commenter thinks you deserved that mod action.
- YDM new - You Deserved More: The commenter thinks you got off too lightly.
- BPR - Bait-Provoked Reaction: That mod probably overreacted in charged situation, or due to being baited.
- CLM - Clueless Mod: The mod probably just doesn't understand how their software works.
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I like public voting. Yes, it can be abused by powertripping mods, but it also makes detecting bots and brigading much easier. That's going to be increasingly important as the fediverse grows.
You really want every post you've ever voted on archived forever by every instance on the fediverse? You don't see any deeper security or privacy concerns with that?
The user agent approach currently used by piefed still makes it easy to detect brigading because the agent is static in the short term. You can ban the agent and you basically deny the user the ability to vote. With a few simple modifications to the activity pub protocol, all individual actions can be cryptographically authenticated without the need for plaintext user strings at all.
The reality is that the plaintext user agents doesn't even prevent abuse by a rogue instance, since such an instance could just generate infinite users anyway. Piefed actually makes this easier to identify by tracking other metrics for individual user agents, like vote ratios.
Edit: Accidently hit send while I was drafting this, so sorry if you saw it before when it was chaotic.
Well, with that history someone could certainly see small impressions of me, like what I like and dislike and how much I engage with different topics. I could only see that being used against my account in these ways:
1 seems unlikely to be an issue anytime soon just with the way the fediverse is set up. Unless the host of my account is the one sending ads, the only way to direct ads to me specifically would be through another user account either DMing me or replying to my comments/posts, and I could just block and report that user.
2 and 3 would be more practical concerns, except with or without public voting, they already have a better insight available. Just by looking at my profile, a user can already see my posts/comments, and those are going to reveal much more than voting ever would. So I don't see public voting making this more of something to worry about.
4 is feasible, as votes are much easier to digest than comments/posts, but really AI is probably already at a level where it could vote like whatever kind of person it intends to imitate already. And honestly, any particular individual's contribution to big data is going to be almost negligible.
I don't see any real life consequences for me based on my user voting be publicly available. If someone did want to harass me irl, I would need to first give away enough revealing information so that they could identify me. And in that case, once again, my comments/posts would surely be what would incite them, not my voting. So long as issues are limited to virtual me, I can easily make an alt on the off-chance my reputation in unsalvageable or something.
The tracking with PieFed you described does seem impressive, so I guess the benefits I mentioned earlier aren't as relevant. I guess I should admit I personally like being able to look at people's activity and make judgements about them. So seeing their voting history helps satisfy my own nosiness. 😅