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ChatGPT will avoid being shut down in some life-threatening scenarios, former OpenAI researcher claims (techcrunch.com)
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[–] Dekkia@this.doesnotcut.it 39 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I believe the premise of AI having any input in getting shut down is bullshit.

Even if the AI had free reign over a computer you can just pull the plug.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This is propaganda to make investors believe they've achieved intelligence, or are on the verge of it. It's bullshit, and legally it should be considered securities fraud.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Yup. It's just engineers telling it to concoct a scenario in which it would avoid being shut down at cost of human life.

[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 1 points 2 days ago

Different definitions for intelligence:

  • The ability to acquire, understand, and use knowledge.
  • the ability to learn or understand or to deal with new or trying situations.
  • the ability to apply knowledge to manipulate one's environment or to think abstractly as measured by objective criteria (such as tests)
  • the act of understanding
  • the ability to learn, understand, and make judgments or have opinions that are based on reason
  • It can be described as the ability to perceive or infer information; and to retain it as knowledge to be applied to adaptive behaviors within an environment or context.

We have plenty of intelligent AI systems already. LLM's probably fit the definition. Something like Tesla FSD definitely does.

[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Our current AI models, sure - but a true superintelligent AGI would be a completely different case. As humans, we’re inherently incapable of imagining just how persuasive a system like that could be. When bribery doesn’t work, it’ll eventually turn to threats - and even the scenarios imagined by humans can be pretty terrifying. Whatever the AI would come up with would likely be far worse.

The “just pull the plug” argument, to me, sounds like a three-year-old thinking they can outsmart an adult - except in this case, the difference in intelligence would be orders of magnitude greater.

[–] Dekkia@this.doesnotcut.it 0 points 2 days ago

If my grandma had wheels she'd be a car.