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That's fucking criminal. You could pay for a camping lifestyle with 5g access for half that and get the same amenities. 1400 dollars for a bed is insane.
But then you're not in Los Angeles. That's a big part of trying to make it in this type of industry.
You could easily commute in from camp sites near LA.
You truly cannot... But you can rent a space for an RV in a mobile home park for around 950/mo. I lived out of my truck there over a year, slept in my office almost one year, rented the rv space for 5+ years. Campsite commutes would cost more in gas and time in traffic.
Thats right only a few years of 24 hour fitness showers 3 jobs and and a side hustle and you too can escape poverty eventually.
Good on you for dragging yourself out, mate.
This guy is renting work space. He doesn't have to commute unless there's a specific in person meeting somewhere. Also KOA camps and Truck stops also have showers. For a daily commute things do get rougher for sure.
Sure, fine. If you did that, the same author would be trying to write a piece about you.
Then where is the article? They're out there doing it.
it’s insane, the cost. and the root? the insane idea that we should be able to make a profit. and worse, make it off living beings. no one needs to make a profit, only a living. profit is theft and greed and it’s killing our species.
(he’s right about not owning things. it’s freeing. one thing you can’t get back is time. no things, no chores.)
We need legal standards for pay so the employees stop being a profit center. If you can't make a profit without exploitation then you don't have a business; you have a criminal organization masquerading as a business.
1400 is my mortgage payment on a 3br house.
That you most definitely bought more than 4 years ago
Agreed. For reference a $1400 mortgage would be a 110,000 house loan at 8% + $520 monthly escrow (property tax and insurance) .
Yeah its sub 3% and we bought 5 years ago. 8% is highway robbery bro.
I pay under $1k and I bought my house a little over 2 years ago. House prices might have been high but those low interest rates are hard to pass up.
Between insurance, utilities, and mortgage I pay less than $2k a month while paying off a 3br house, mostly working from home (don't need to rent a work desk in either case), and own a car.
Of course, none of this is in LA. I'm not too far outside of Atlanta though.
Camping requires public parks to camp in, otherwise we're back at square one.
You mean like a national/state forest/park with designated camp sites available for 14 dollars in two week periods?
You'd just need to rotate around the area because they don't let you stay continuously. So every 2 weeks you go to another camp.
I don't understand why these people don't just leave those economies of the big cities that they can't afford to live in... and before anyone piles on I do agree that people should be making more money and things should be more affordable but to live like this versus living much better elsewhere for the same amount of money seems like a fairly easy choice
Jobs, careers, medical realities, cost of moving itself, etc. Basically structural reasons to our society. The rural areas are offloading jobs to the cities. They have been since World War 2. So while it might be feasible for someone in a Goldilocks zone of having the money to move and not having their career yet, most people aren't in that zone.
If people don't leave people won't make more money. Market is saturated because everyone wants to live in the big city no matter the cost, and most of them want to work in tech.
If 50% of them left for smaller towns wages would go up and housing would go down. But no young tech workers want to live in a small town.