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This was a Critical Mass event, which is why the bicyclists are taking up all of the street as a way to reclaim the streets and protest the lack of safety for riders under usual conditions. It's not legal, but protests are never useful if they're fully legal now, are they.

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[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Be idealist all you want. If you try to convince someone to join or support your cause by angering them, it won't work. You form enemies, not allies.

If the purpose of this was to make the bikers feel good while turning people against bikers, I'm sure it worked. This protest isn't going to make someone in a car 30 minutes late and think "hey those cyclists just going through red lights, the wrong way, making me late, they got a real good point."

People need to be realistic and realize that whimsical ideals don't seamlessly translate to reality.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

You are the white moderate MLK warned was worse the Klan members.

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Not wanting people to drive bikes into traffic and through red lights makes me racist and worse than KKK? That's a reason to bring up race and go after my skin color? Damn you are racist AF...

You live in a fantasy world and are doing nothing but use the actions and words of great people to push your nonsense agenda. You should be ashamed.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

No, it doesn't make you racist. You're just showing the same moral failings as the white moderates MLK warned us about. You prefer an unjust peace to any struggle for justice. If you were in 1940s Germany, and you were stopped at a train track watching cattle cars full of people being taken to death camps, your only complaint would be that the train was blocking your path.

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

It's wild that you can claim to know exactly what I would do. A smart man would know better than to make such strong assumptions about someone's character.

Your logic doesn't hold up because this isn't a struggle for justice. This is people driving head on into traffic through a red light. What are they accomplishing with this, what justice are they championing? Being able to ignore all traffic laws and put themselves in danger by doing so?

By your warped world view I can do anything I want and say it's for a cause, and if you disagree you only want unjust peace. This is a blanket dumb stance you can take to literally justify anything. You can say ICE deporting everyone is right, and anyone saying it isn't only wants the unjust peace of illegals being here. No nuance. That's a dumb ass stance but your logic supports it.

This is paper thin logic hanging onto a concept you don't fully understand.