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[–] Lembot_0003@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Americans: we have guns to be sure that... democracy... liberty... constitution... bla-bla-bla.
Americans at the same time: what can we do? They have sticks and tear gas. And scary masks!

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

Except as soon as one person pops off, every cop with the state-funded military gear will indiscriminately return fire because they really really want to use all of their bullets at once then go home and beat their spouses on paid leave.

[–] rockstarmode@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'm not sure if you're familiar with US politics, but the Venn diagram intersection of people who have advocated for civilian firearm ownership AND resisting stricter immigration laws is vanishingly small.

Mostly Democrats are upset about the current ICE push, but they also spent the last several generations trying to eradicate civilian firearm ownership, particularly in California.

I'm on the side of of both more guns AND due process, but it wasn't until recently that I've noticed traditional lefties waking up to why the second amendment is important.

My hope is that the left remembers this feeling the next time they're in power.

[–] Truscape@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This is California, the state with the strictest gun laws in the country on the books. You're asking civilians with compliant arms to go up against literal military surplus equipment (provided through the 1033 program)?

Also, nice bot username. Let's see if you reply to any of the comments.

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

Seems like we need to start funneling arms into CA from surrounding states?

[–] Lembot_0003@lemmy.zip -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Who said that police will dare to return fire? It is easy when you're against one negro or a band of drunken bikers in the worst case. But fighting against people? Being in the minority? Nah...

[–] shplane@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They will 100% return fire. You’re an idiot.

[–] Lembot_0003@lemmy.zip -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And you're a coward. Totally deserving of what Trump regime will do with you.

[–] shplane@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If not openly carrying a gun to a protest and risking my life makes me a coward, then yes, I agree. What if I told you there are better ways to disrupt the conservative agenda than flaunting a gun around a cop?

[–] Lembot_0003@lemmy.zip -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There are many ways. Global strike, for example, if you're a complete pacifist. But you won't do that either. Because you "have a family to feed".

[–] shplane@lemmy.world 0 points 17 hours ago

Lots of assumptions you’re making, none of which are true, but something tells me that pointing that out to you is useless.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

These people are going in with armored vehicles, SWAT gear, and military equipment. A single vigilante isn't going to do shit other than get murdered and probably get everybody around them shot as well. We have to be smart about this. We have to be organized.

Don't place a car airbag under a manhole cover, it's very dangerous.