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How will we deal with all the broken images? (lemm.ee)
submitted 3 weeks ago by Irelephant@lemm.ee to c/fediverse@lemmy.world
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When an instance goes down, all of the images on it go with it. there's going to be a lot from lemm.ee, especially given its size.

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[–] Goten@piefed.social 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

i heard its a problem, but never saw any. (im not saying its a lie)

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Same, same. I can't verify it and I probably don't want to. But I had people assure to me it happened.

[–] scytale@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

That’s credit towards the admins who acted quickly. That’s why you’ll see instances defederate from an instance if their admin is not active and doesn’t take action against illegal content in a reasonable time, because it can quickly get out of hand. Now if content isn’t proxied and is always mirrored, not only will the admin have to defederate from the problem instance, but they will have to go and clean up whatever was copied on their instance as well.

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I can't remember the exact details, but I believe the attackers also targeted instances? So it's not just that it happens with certain problematic instances, but everyone could have that uploaded to their media storage. And it can come from arbitrary places. I believe that adds to the problem. And it kind of requires to shut these things down for everyone. Or at least everyone except a few excellent hand-picked instances who cooperate closely, and the moderation tools actually work.

Yes, they've done an excellent job. I just wish they wouldn't have to deal with these things.

(And I also think some of the child protection agencies should finally offer some open-source tool to scan content. Afaik there are still no image classifiers or hash tables I could use for my projects.)

[–] Goten@piefed.social 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

i hope you dont think thats the only reason for defederation.

[–] scytale@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I never said that was the only reason. We're talking specifically about image proxying vs mirroring in this thread.