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Yes I know China is also technically capitalist but you understand the idea

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You're conflating public ownership in general with Socialism, though, which is wrong, and leads to wrong conclusions like thinking the US Postal Service is a "socialist part of a Capitalist economy." All systems are mixed, what determines if a system is Capitalist or Socialist is which aspect is primary in the economy.

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world -1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Socialism is an economic and political philosophy encompassing diverse economic and social systems characterised by social ownership of the means of production, as opposed to private ownership.

Social ownership can take various forms, including public, community, collective, cooperative, or employee.

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Go back to my original comment where I described the socialist mode of production:

the socialist mode of production (when the means of production are owned by the government, or a group of workers, or a community)

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I understand the Wikipedia entry, I read Marx, Engels, Lenin, and countless other Marxists. I even read anarchists like Kropotkin and so forth. You are confusing public ownership in general with Socialism as a Mode of Production, which the Wikipedia entry hints at, but you lack the context to understand that, which is why I am telling you.

[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I wasn't trying to adhere to a strictly Marxist semantic structure. And the reason for that is: I'm not a Marxist. But you've made it quite clear that when words like "socialism" or "socialist," or the term "socialist mode of production" are used incorrectly (according to Marxists), this can cause great consternation. Therefore, in the future I will use different words/terms, so that I might avoid offending the sensibilities of Marxists, such as yourself. Hopefully that will help me avoid interactions like this one, in the future.

avoiding interactions with cowbee is a worthwhile goal