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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is Trump an extremist as you claimed just a post ago, or is it that it's a new extremist view of mine that attempting to overturn an election is fascist behavior?

[–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

First of all I didn't mention what he was at all. But the truth of the matter is that he's just a corrupt idiot. He bumbled his way into being a cult leader. He's not exactly making proactive decisions about what the cult does.

Aside from that the actual Q cultists are few and far between. They may be loud but they're small. The mainstream appeal of Trump was because everybody is tired of constant politics. Some people may like it but most people couldn't give two shits.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You cherry pick the most extreme examples and then call everybody a Nazi. I wasn’t talking about Putin. I wasn’t talking about Trump.

"Extreme examples" included Trump in your previous post.

He bumbled his way into being a cult leader. He’s not exactly making proactive decisions about what the cult does.

That's the heart of the matter. He's a cult leader. Fascism is many things but central to fascist movements is a charismatic leader who alters the government around their cult of personality.

I thoroughly disagree that he doesn't make proactive decisions about what the cult does (whose idea was 1/6/21?).

[–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Central to any movement anywhere is a charismatic leader. Not every political system is fucking fascism.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah that's right, take a single adjective-noun pairing out of a sentence and pretend like that was the only thing in the sentence that mattered.

If this thread is any indication, you're not equipped to persuade anyone of anything much less persuading bigots to stop being bigots.

[–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm just tired of people online calling everything fascism. You've taken a term that means something and made it mean nothing. Your definition of fascist is worthless. Stop using the word.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Your definition of fascist is worthless. Stop using the word.

Lol

"It's not right to prevent people from saying whatever they want"

Moments later

"Stop using the word"

Shouldn't you be trying to win out in "the free marketplace of ideas" through persuasion instead of demanding people stop using words in ways you don't like? Or does that only apply to non-Nazis?

[–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did I use force to try and stop you or did I merely tell you your usage of the term is stupid and you should stop using it?

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Nah, you just completely failed in a "free exchange of ideas" in the "marketplace of ideas" and resorted to forceful language instead of rational argument, which is utterly predictable because you're human and emotional like everyone else and it's just more proof of my point.

[–] Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Whatever you want to believe.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

At least, I think you're human like everyone else, but you could be NaziSimpGPT or something. Does that exist? Is that you?