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[–] oce@jlai.lu 36 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And so does Lord of the Rings. It's fantasy, having obviously good people and obviously bad people you kill without remorse is part of the genre.

[–] HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone -4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, and that is exactly the moral dilemma Tolkien had. He believed that killing orcs are wrong unless there is a very good reason, so he would have thought it was wrong to kill demons unless there is a very good reason.

[–] Nikelui@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think the orcs/demons being hell-bent on killing humans is a sufficiently good reason.

[–] HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone -4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Nikelui@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't think he does. The whole point of Sauron trying to enslave Middle Earth is exactly the justification you need for the mass slaughter of the "enemy". If the orcs were spending the days idly farming and smoking hobbit pipes, you would have a whole other argument against genocide.

[–] HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago

Did you read the wiki page I sent? Fighting an army isn't the same as committing a genocide.