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You're right they didn't. Israel need to be seriously looking at the security they provide to their staff members.
When you become a genocidal terror state you have to accept that people around the world may try to reciprocate your violence against government officials.
They dont actually care that these people were killed. It gives them more credibility when they cry about antisemitism
“Their government is doing bad things” is not justification to kill someone.
Or do have a free pass to start gunning down every US and Chinese government employee now?
Oh my what a difficult moral dilemma, I wonder if there could ever be a good answer to it. Nope, I guess literal government employees are not at all responsible for what their government is doing.
Maybe Netanyahu and Gallant can go personally to the ICC to demand action on these extrajudicial killings if they're so concerned with due process.
Go back to reddit
They are part of the government that is committing genocide.
So everyone at the State Department is fair game because Trump is performing an ethnic cleansing over here?
Do you not understand how absurd this argument is?
Yeah, after Iraq and Afghanistan, and many other countries, I have very little sympathy for people working on foreign affairs with the US government. The US is not a force for good in this world.
You ever heard the saying "don't blame children for the crimes of their parents" or something like that?
Nobody said anything about the employees children.
They are talking about the crimes of the employees.
Is that similar to the saying "don't sign up to work for genocidal governments and expect to live a long and fulfilling life?"
If you think local governments or state governments are equivalent to the national one, you need a refresher.
These people worked for the national government. They also publicly voiced support for genocide.
I wouldn't shed a single tear if Bush, Cheney and Rove were forced to answer for their crimes because they're the ones responsible. The staffers? What'd they do that deserves death?
Getting back to Israel; all this did was create 2 more martyrs for Bibi. Doesn't help the pro Palestinian cause one bit. Gives Trump yet another excuse to target every pro Palestinian in the US, citizen or not. And in case you haven't seen it yet the mainstream media is running with the story of how they were a couple about to be engaged. So this is just going to be used to garner more sympathy for Israel and make a ceasefire all the more unlikely.
This accomplished nothing, and to call it justified is just utter nonsense.
Bush, Cheney, Rove, Rumsfeld, they don't actually do anything. They order people around, but the ones doing the legwork are their staffers.
If the lives of people are less valuable to them than their own jobs, well, maybe their life ain't worth shit either.
The staffers helped murder 5 million people.
First, I have no clue who deserves death or not. I just feel no sympathy for these lost lives. I won't feel any sympathy or regret if more Israeli government officials die.
Israel and the US government paint campus protestors as terrorists. They are going to continue painting any resistance to the genocide as terrorism.
We have no idea what this accomplished. You sound like the compromising liberals MLK Jr criticized. Oh, we just have to protest a little more civilly next time and avoid inconveniencing people. If this strikes fear in Israeli officials, sounds like a win to me
Ya know, when the protest takes the form of murder, yeah I'll go ahead and be one of those compromising liberals. We should be a little more civil than to murder people. That's my line in the sand.
Keep doing your thing then. I'm sure it will be as effective as it always has been.
You would have supported the Nazi's against the resistance.
its a sensible take on these sort of matters but maybe not for israel. current israel is not only committing a genocide in plain view of the world but is also targeting any criticism against it with a very disgusting mo.
they have been killing journalists in gaza and westbank for decades so that idf brutality and murder of families by settlers has no evidence.
https://www.france24.com/en/culture/20250515-fatma-hassona-death-was-targeted-killing-gaza-film-director-sepideh-farsi-tells-cannes
they kill even pregnant women and children for fun not as some human shield or collateral
they specially target hospital, medics and doctors so the injured die painfully while their relatives watch helplessly. this is a level of planned evil that goes way beyond warcrime and genocide
they seem to be dictating narrative on every msm. even forums like reddit is completely crippled by their bots. just see the difference in voting pattern on world news from 2 years ago
they have complete control of our political system on both red and blue side. now we all know much the shameless scum biden did to restrain israel. current dnc chairman schumer has publicly said that his top priority is always to keep the left pro-israel.
peaceful protests not just in us but around the world have been targeted by them in violent ways. any criticism of genocide has resulted in immediate loss of employment for some of the most intelligent people working at google and microsoft.
israel was founded by people who butchered entire villages and raped little girls for days. since then settler movement has attracted people across the world who are proud of murdering a family and taking their home. they supply spyware and weapon to most violent dictators in the world.
i really don’t think there is a peaceful alternative to control something this evil and elaborate. this is not going to stop at gaza. the ultra rich who are mostly at the head of israeli lobby will use this very formula of violence and propaganda against the working class. to some extent its already started, we all saw how luigi is branded a terrorist for allegedly taking out a mass murderer and how anything positive related to him is suppressed everywhere. the ongoing ice raids.
"We can't fight back because then the people killing us will do the thing they're already doing!"
How involved does one need to be to be complicit?
We can probably agree that the local embassy security staff didn't have a hand in these atrocities, but do the intelligence officers staffed there? The schmoozers working to ensure unwavering US support? The ambassador himself?
Keeping in mind everyone's interpretation of complicity is different, I agree this probably wasn't the best move available, but I won't criticize it further than that.
Everyone in a government position has served in the IGF. One of these dudes was on Twitter shit talking the ICC, claiming aid was being stolen by Hamas (and not Israel) and was shot at a conference regarding the aid blockade.
They absolutely were involved in the atrocities, it's just a matter of degree.
Yes? You made my point more clearly than I did, but they were the same point.
You would have whined about the resistance shooting Nazi officials.
At a certain point you'd hit something important so yah go off