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In 2012, Palantir quietly embedded itself into the daily operations of the New Orleans Police Department. There were no public announcements. No contracts made available to the city council. Instead, the surveillance company partnered with a local nonprofit to sidestep oversight, gaining access to years of arrest records, licenses, addresses, and phone numbers all to build a shadowy predictive policing program.

Palantir’s software mapped webs of human relationships, assigned residents algorithmic “risk scores,” and helped police generate “target lists” all without public knowledge. “We very much like to not be publicly known,” a Palantir engineer wrote in an internal email later obtained by The Verge.

After years spent quietly powering surveillance systems for police departments and federal agencies, the company has rebranded itself as a frontier AI firm, selling machine learning platforms designed for military dominance and geopolitical control.

"AI is not a toy. It is a weapon,” said CEO Alex Karp. “It will be used to kill people.”

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[–] Bo7a@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I haven't either. But I can see how a young person without a lot of knowledge of the world and the impending weight of 50 years of work ahead of them, possibly with a family to feed, or an extended family to take care of due to the inherently predatory healthcare system where they were born, might make that choice. And I understand it, regardless of "forgiveness".

[–] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

We are failing the youth and need to completely change our society. I get what you’re saying and see why it happens but it’s the result of our fucked up society and capitalism. People coming out of school shouldn’t have to face these ethical dilemmas because of the system they’re subjected to and if everyone doesn’t get on board then we’re just fucked and all generations after will be more fucked

[–] Bo7a@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I would bet we have a lot of the exact same thoughts on why this happens, and probably how to solve it. My only disagreement - and it is not a strong one - is the impossibility of forgiveness.

If they mature and leave, or even better, commit to being a monkey wrench for a bit before leaving... I think I can find space for them in my community.

[–] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Thats a fair statement, I’m a stubborn little bastard at times and it’s definitely a fault of mine and forgiveness is the wiser path. I guess I’m also very cautious of people who went the other way and want to redeem themselves cos of how history has treated leftists and infiltration is much worse when it happens to lefties than cons cos they just like to dead lefties

[–] Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, but what's more feasible? Uniting a complacent society and not knowing when or where your next meal will be, or taking a hot check home and living comfortably? Especially when kids come into the mix. Why do you think they want to push the "have kids" and anti-abortion agenda? Because you're only going to think about the best for your family and the best is stability and peace when it comes to children.

I don't disagree with you, but I don't condemn the little people trying to survive, either.

[–] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Asking the “what’s more feasible” questions, to me, leads to defeatism and continues to perpetuate the system we are living in. That’s why I’m such of a cunt about it, if we continue to just let shit go etc and not go for serious change then nothing will change