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Wtf am I supposed to replace my aging Odyssey with then. It's perfect for PHEV most days it never goes more than a few miles and when I really drive it were don't hundreds to thousands of miles.
I don't like the Sienna, the pacifica is trash, the ID Buzz is a maybe but does not seem as practical, and KIAs still catch fire to often for me to trust.
They don’t want you to pick an electric drivetrain. It would mean you no longer are a constant customer for oil changes, brake pads, and any other regular ICE maintenance. They want you on a gas car for life because you will always be a constant revenue stream.
Sure, but for a number of customers (and increasing year over year), that's not an option. I'm not choosing between an ICE Honda and all the other non-Honda. I'm choosing between an electric Honda or an electric non-Honda.
If they don't want my money at all, then sure. But this is the sort of decision making that killed Sears and Blockbuster. Society is moving in a particular direction. They can keep up with the trends, or die.
I spend as much on maintenance for my Honda Clarity as I do on my Odyssey. I just want to be able to skip the gas station unless im doing a road trip, and I want regen breaking so I dont burn through pads and rotors all the time.
Car makers don't care - the routine maintenance is profit for the dealers not the manufacturer. Besides you still have tire maintenance (you do rotate your tires, don't you?), suspension system, and other maintenance.
Tire rotations and suspension and other drivetrain repairs are not common for an EV the way oil changes and brakes are. Tires yes but that’s it. You can’t drive any vehicle without tires.
Brakes are not very common for ICEs either in my experience. They do wear out, but not very often. This might be about driving style, I'm not a great driver (the only people who think they are - are liars), but I do my best to follow the experts recommendations which means I'm rarely using the brakes hard.
I used to work at an auto garage and brakes are most common regular maintenance (outside of filters, and oil changes). Many people go through brakes as fast as tires. Sometimes quicker. Depends on how cheap their pads are, their driving style, and weight of their vehicles.
You dont drive a minivan. I swap rotors more often than pads, because its a beast to slow down. Regen would actually really help reduce break ware for me.
brake wear?
I just replaced a minivan we had for 10 years and 200k miles. Replaced the brakes once in that time. YMMV, but at least for me.
Manufacturers absolutely make profit selling parts for maintenance. That’s why dealerships only use OEM parts.
Oil is not one of those parts though.
There is definitely OEM brands of oil