this post was submitted on 19 Sep 2023
975 points (97.5% liked)

Climate - truthful information about climate, related activism and politics.

5392 readers
661 users here now

Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

Recommended actions to cut greenhouse gas emissions in the near future:

Anti-science, inactivism, and unsupported conspiracy theories are not ok here.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] vivavideri@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That would be an exceptionally good day.

[–] rckclmbr@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm liberal, but holy shit the division from that happening would make Obama and Trump seem like warmups

[–] flossdaily@lemmy.world 62 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No... Don't you see?

No matter how centrist or moderate democratic candidate is, the Republicans call them communist, socialist pedophiles.

They've painted themselves into a corner. We could nominate a full-on Marxist flag-burner, and they would have nothing left to say about them that they didn't already say about Obama and Biden.

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Let's be fair, Nancy P is about as much a back slapping old school politician as you can get, and AOC fell in line to her leadership. AOC and the squad haven't been as left as promised

[–] flossdaily@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

AOC pulls the party to the left with her rhetoric, and then lends her support to strengthen the party as a whole.

In this political environment, when the opposition is literally a fascist cult, it's great that she's being a team player.

Also when she eventually does run for president, she won't have alienated the party.

She has handled it perfectly.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

You say that like the person even matters. As long as there is a D next to their name the other side will act like the world is ending. Literally.

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am not an American, so I have to ask: Is AOC really that radical? To me she looks like a left leaning liberal with the most radical idea being MMT. Other then that it is normal talking points of a left leaning politican.

[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

any other country would view AOC and Bernie as centrist at best – but our Overton window has shifted so far right that centrist is seen as full-on revolutionary communist …

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I honestly thought they were some European style social democrat types, but then I looked up their climate policies and turns out Macron has actually passed more radical climate laws then the two of them are even proposing. It is insane how Americans believe that two politicans would be revolutionary communist, when a former investment banker turned neoliberal politican is more radical then them.

Where does the idea come from Bernie would be seen as a moderate outside of the US? He openly ran as a communist when he was a mayor. His policies are far to the left to any social-democratic party in Europe.

[–] mrpants@midwest.social 5 points 1 year ago

I'm liberal but the first thing that comes to mind about this advancement is something negative. I would prefer a negative peace, an absence of conflict, to a positive peace. I'm a liberal.