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[–] PolarKraken@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Great advice. And anyone in authority at a place of employment that might be targeted should know exactly how they intend to respond, meaning they must plan for it. As soon as the thugs make themselves known, execute the plan - get one person on 911 doing what you said, while another confronts them directly to try to force them to leave.

I wonder if there are any resources giving concrete advice on what to do in these scenarios? Kind of like how we have great standard advice from various law professionals, etc., about what to do and not do when detained by police.

Edit to add: even if you expect the local PD to come down against your side, it's probably still a good idea to call them in. The resulting time and chaos as they get things sorted out may be just enough to do something useful for the vulnerable person needing help. Remember, once that person is in the custody of the gestapo, it's fucking over, their life is wrecked at best. See only what happened to Kilmar Abrego Garcia for proof.

[–] grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's one thing my campus has done decently--I know that to do if ICE shows up.

  1. they're not allowed to just walk in to non-public areas
  2. we call campus police (whose main jobs seems to be keeping students safe and keeping campus out of the news). Annoyingly, I work in a public building (the library) but my office is private, big, and has a lock on the door. I'm well stocked up in case of a shelter-in-place situation and I'm happy to wait until campus police shows up.
[–] PolarKraken@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fuck yeah, stay strong in the struggle my friend!

[–] grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thanks. It helps that I'm white enough I glow in the dark. My big worry is that many of my students might be first- and second-generation immigrants from south of the USA and I don't want them to have to deal with this bullshit.

(I say "might be" because I don't know anyone's immigration status and even if I did no I don't.)

[–] PolarKraken@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Cheers! And hard agree, those of us with some amount of demographic plot armor, so to speak, gotta deploy that shit lol

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think we will need a phone app that modifies the emergency function:

1: When the police are called, the recording function turns on. 2: The ACLU/legal services of choice are given the recording, live, without interfering with the current call. 3: ICE Spotting apps are given your current location, as are designated people in your contact list.

In effect, this allows you to uphold your legal rights, since ICE would likely break your phone when they begin trafficking people, which may include you. Plus, people in the area might be alerted to the presence of ICE, and begin gathering. We should use the bee's approach and swarm the bastards. Heat is the great weakness of ICE and bullies alike.

[–] PolarKraken@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is a fantastic idea. To be clear, anyone working on such a thing will almost certainly gain the administration's attention, which of course is extremely dangerous. But yes, this should exist!