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Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney told Donald Trump on Tuesday that his country will never be for sale, shutting down the U.S. president’s repeated calls to make Canada the 51st state.

“There are some places that are never for sale,” Carney said in the Oval Office.

Canada is “not for sale” and “won’t be for sale ever,” the prime minister said.

Trump replied: “Never say never.”

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[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

How would that even work? I’ll give you 100 dollars to be mine… then that 100 dollars becomes mine again?

[–] BlackSheep@lemmy.ca 20 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

And let’s not forget our health care. We may have challenges, but Canadians aren’t losing their homes and/or life savings because of medical emergencies. I dislocated and broke my arm last year from a bad fall. Long wait at emergency, but once x-rays were done and I saw a doctor, surgery was scheduled quickly. Total bill: $0.00

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 7 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (3 children)

and the important thing about the wait times: they may be annoying, but they’re never life or health threatening… triage exists

(i assume; i’ve never used the canadian health system)

[–] Englishgrinn@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

I went in for chest pains at the end of last year, I was shocked at how fast I was seen. Once they established I wasn't dying, I had a pretty long wait but overall service was really good and I paid nothing.

Well, not nothing, I've paid taxes my whole life. But I doubt I've paid the 6 figures amount that would've cost me in the US even if you add all my lifetime taxes together and during that time I still drove on roads and stuff.

Socialized medicine isn't just a better option, it's the only moral choice.

[–] BlackSheep@lemmy.ca 5 points 14 hours ago

Yes, triage exists. In my case, despite my injury, they monitored me and I was placed in sequence of severity. My heart beat and blood pressure were ok, so I waited. I’m cool with that. If someone is in more distress than me, by all means, take them first.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Basically. If someone's been on the receiving end of improvised heart surgery, they'll be rushed ahead in priorities. So if you're not having anything serious, the wait may be irritating and long, but if it's urgent, it will be shorter due to the whole actively dying bit.

[–] BlackSheep@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

“improvised” will be rushed ahead in priorities? No, that’s not how it works. No one is dying.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

I was envisioning "improvised heart surgery" as in a stabbing with a knife, as opposed to any surgical function.

But generally, if a someone is having a medical emergency and is brought into the ER, or is having a medical emergency in the ER, they will be triaged, and put ahead of a lot of people whose care isn't as urgent, for good reason.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone -5 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

socialised healthcare! where everything’s free and the wait times don’t matter!

[–] hdnsmbt@feddit.org 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

You think medical staff has magically more resources when the funding is managed differently?

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 0 points 5 hours ago

i think that socialised healthcare tends to have better health outcomes and wait times are both not that bad, and at worst a minor inconvenience

[–] BlackSheep@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 hours ago

If someone needs immediate health care, it’s there. Everyone is triaged, which means you are evaluated and are put in order of severity. No one loses their house because of health bills. No one loses their life savings because of health bills. No one dies because they can’t afford their medication. In the US health care is big business. In Canada it’s a right.