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[–] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 19 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Misleading statement. It doesn't block "traffic", it blocks DNS requests... you don't know how much traffic this corresponds to.

[–] xavier666@lemm.ee 10 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Correct. The payload of DNS requests is tiny compared to, say requesting a webpage. So there might not be a huge decrease of bandwidth usage reduction. However, having 66.6% less DNS requests is still a win. The router/gateway doesn't have to work that hard because of the dropped requests.

[–] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 13 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

It isn't so much about the payload of the DNS requests, but about the content that would have been loaded if the DNS request hadn't been blocked.

If you load a page that has 100kB of useful information, but 1MB of banner ads and trackers ... you've blocked a lot more than 66%. But if you block 1MB of banner ads on a page that hosts a 200MB video, you've blocked a lot less.

Also a 66% blocked percentage seems very high. I have installed pihole on 2 networks, and I'm seeing 1.7% on my own network, but I do run uBlock on almost everything which catches most stuff before it reaches the pihole, and 25% on the other network.

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

From my understanding, uBlock doesn’t have any impact on a pihole. Any browser-based ad blocker will work by detecting the ads after the DNS requests have been made. A properly functioning pihole would intercept the ads before the ad blocker. 1.7% seems suspiciously low; My primary pihole averages anywhere from 25-50%, depending on usage.

[–] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 2 points 58 minutes ago

Your understanding is not correct. For page elements, uBlock prevents the domain from even trying to load, so no DNS request is ever made. Only if you go directly to an ad domain from the url bar (who does that?), does a DNS request get made.

For example, on my own webserver, I created a simple static html file with an tag pointing to an ad domain that I know is blocked on uBlock as well as on the pihole. Like so:

<html>
adblock test
<img src="https://track.adtrue.com/some/bannerad.png"></img>
</html>

Loading that page, uBlock showed 1 blocked ad on that page, pihole only logged a DNS request to my webserver, not to track.adtrue.com.

Once I turned off uBlock in the browser and reloaded the page, pihole did log the request to track.adtrue.com and blocked it. My browser showed a broken image.

[–] mac@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I run a handful of instances across different networks, 1.7% is suspiciously low, you should make sure you've got the right lists. I like HageZi's

[–] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

I use firebog's ticked lists, from what I can tell from the logs ad domains are blocked just fine.

But as I said, I have ublock origin on all my browsers which already catches most ads before they reach pihole, and I don't use mobile a lot when I'm at home. Oh, and I also use Linux, so no Microsoft telemetry to block either.

1.7% makes perfect sense to me.

[–] turmacar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 59 minutes ago)

I was averaging ~1-2% blocked using the firebog and a few other lists, I also have ublock origin on everything I can. Added hagezi's 'pro plus' list last month and it's up to 39% blocked.