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Labor has stormed to victory in the federal election and Prime Minister Anthony Albanese will lead a majority government following a disastrous night for the Coalition and Peter Dutton.

At 8.24pm, less than half an hour after the final polls closed in Western Australia, 9News projected Labor had won the election.

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[–] RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I'm gonna keep enjoying having a party in power that wants better for people and actually has the ability to do it as opposed to the liberal party who doesn't give two shits about anyone who isn't a mining boss.

I'm gonna enjoy not having Medicare cut, not having education cut, not having fire management cut, not having NDIS cut and basically everything else the liberal party does.

I'm dismissing your arguments because you either have no idea about what the parties do, or you are actively being misleading. I don't actually care which one, but it's objective fact that one of the major parties tends to work to help people and actually run the country and the other one has the economic management skills of a dead, half rotten mouse while generally making life worse for almost everyone.

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

I’m gonna keep enjoying having a party in power that wants better for people and actually has the ability to do it as opposed to the liberal party who doesn’t give two shits about anyone who isn’t a mining boss.

Unfortunately for you you're also going to have to enjoy having a party in power that wants higher inflation, ever increasing house prices, ever increasing power bills, and ever increasing cost of living, because that's what their policies create.

Don't get me wrong - I didn't want the LNP to win either. The LNP are just Labor-lite, with an absolute spud for a leader (at least that will be changed now!). I've literally never voted for the LNP. Didn't this time either.

The NDIS is a great thing, but is horribly mismanaged and absolutely fraud central. What is going on with the NDIS is not sustainable and needs to be investigated and brought back under control. Again - huge fan of the idea of the NDIS, not a fan of how it has played out.

Medicare was never going to be cut btw.

but it’s objective fact that one of the major parties tends to work to help people and actually run the country and the other one has the economic management skills of a dead, half rotten mouse while generally making life worse for almost everyone.

This is far from "objective fact" though lol. Again - cost of living has been out of control under labor because of labors policies. The housing crisis is in large part due to Labors insane record levels of immigration. The much vaunted "economic management skills" haven't been seen for years at this point. When do they rear their head? The pattern has always been the LNP save money, the ALP spend it, rinse and repeat. Now they're both just trying to outspend each other.

I’m dismissing your arguments because you either have no idea about what the parties do, or you are actively being misleading.

I can say the same thinga bout your arguments, if you actually presented any that is.

Do you admit that the "affordable housing investment" was all a lie that resulted in absolutely nothing? Or are you still going to blame "fox news sources"?

Have our power bills gotten $275 cheaper from what they were in 2022 like promised by Albo? Or have they pretty much tripled since then?

[–] RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Liberal party saving money? Are you delusional? I was going to ignore you entirely but my god that's stupid. The government debt more than doubled under the liberal party, because they spend the most on shit that helps their own pockets and nothing else.

The Labor party however turned back to back surpluses which the liberal government can't even get 1 of, at least in the last lot of repeated liberal governments.

The liberal party removed the debt ceiling for fucks sake, what has gone wrong in your life where you think one of the worst economic managers possible is better than Labor? Don't answer that, I don't actually care.

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

You must be new to politics.

LNP = Cuts, cuts, cuts. Taxes, taxes, taxes. Sell, sell, sell. Surplus / savings.

ALP = Spend, spend, spend. Handout, handout, handout. Subsidy, subsidy, subsidy. Debt.

The government debt more than doubled under the liberal party

Can you think of something that might have happened from 2019->early 2022 by any chance? Hmmm panderic? pandomic? hmmm sounds familiar.

The liberal party removed the debt ceiling for fucks sake

Ok so yeah you're really new to all this.

what has gone wrong in your life where you think one of the worst economic managers possible is better than Labor?

What has gone wrong in your life where you think the last 3 years have been good economic management? I can only think that you were born into wealth to where it doesn't affect you.

Again - I didn't want Dutton or the LNP in power. I just don't want Albo and the ALP/Greens/Teals, as their economic policies are going to absolutely destroy our country. They're doing NOTHING to address the ever increasing power prices, the housing crisis, or the cost of living crisis.

[–] RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

You keep managing shit takes to bring me back. Liberal party didn't start in 2019. The debt was drastically rising before that.

I'm born into such wealth that the majority of my life has been drastically below the poverty line, enjoy your delusions.

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Liberal party didn’t start in 2019.

So which doubling of the debt were you talking about here?

The government debt more than doubled under the liberal party

I’m born into such wealth that the majority of my life has been drastically below the poverty line, enjoy your delusions.

And you're ok with Labor making it even harder for you to ever afford a house, afford basic things like food and clothing, and not being able to pay your power bill?

[–] RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Abbot started in 2013 and the debt doubled before COVID started. It's almost doubled again now but it went down for a year which is something the liberal party can't do, apparently.

They aren't making it harder, my pay has gone up over $1/h because of my award and being casual, I have more money than ever and am pretty confident that I'll be able to buy a house where I live without a big deal in a couple decades. My electricity hasn't changed a whole lot, it's still under 300 a quarter for the household and less during autumn/spring, the only thing that made it that high at all was getting AC installed.

Sorry but Labor is consistently a decent party.

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

They aren’t making it harder, my pay has gone up over $1/h because of my award and being casual

And your costs have gone up significantly more than $1/h.

am pretty confident that I’ll be able to buy a house where I live without a big deal in a couple decades.

WITHIN A COUPLE OF DECADES and you're saying that like it's a great thing!?

My electricity hasn’t changed a whole lot

That doesn't match what the actual electricity prices and all reports say, so your situation is likely an edge case of shared bills and/or a battery system already exists.

You sound like you're young, right? Late teens/early twenties?

[–] RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

My primary cost increase was I spent too much money on a car and it's not good on fuel and takes premium. That's more than every other expense going up combined and it's a very self inflicted problem.

Idk about you but most people have decades of mortgages, so a couple decades is normal.

I live rural so my prices on most things are different. No 700k average house price like in Adelaide. The electricity is the full house cost, we have solar but no battery because dropping all of my savings on a battery to save money on electricity that isn't costing a whole lot for us seems pretty wasteful. Seems like a thing for people with bigger electricity bills.

Almost 30, have seen throughout my life the liberal party doing consistent damage, and every time the Labor party shows up they pull us out of the shit and do a great job.

Currently I am the most economically comfortable I've ever been, including all parts of childhood. I haven't walked around a store doing math to figure out what I can actually afford in a couple years and I no longer have to think, well, if I run out of money I can live on oats for $30/w. Spent a lot of time pretty much exclusively eating oats. Not sure how well I'd go back to that given I spend that much in a day or 2 now on much nicer food.

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Almost 30, so you've voted what, 3 times? Yeah you're new to this politics thing.

Idk about you but most people have decades of mortgages, so a couple decades is normal.

So you can afford a property with a mortgage now, or you will be able to get a mortgage "in a couple of decades"? Pretty significantly different things.

Ok so by the sounds of it youre way out where the cost of living increases havent been dramatic, neither has the house price issue. So you're an outlier and not really representative of the majority. It's a fact that the majority are struggling now more than ever, that there is a cost of living crisis, that there is a housing crisis, that there is a power price crisis. Even labor acknowledge this. They just won't take any blame and keep saying that they're the only ones that will fix it......with policies that make it worse.

[–] RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 hours ago

I could get a mortgage in like 3 years if I felt like it (I really really don't, fuck interest).

They are pushing policies to fix it, as opposed to the liberal party who literally won't fix anything because they only make shit worse.

One party is trying to spend billions on housing, one isn't. One party is trying to get more cheaper electricity, one isn't. One party is increasing pay for the poorest in society, one isn't. One party wants to help the environment, one doesn't consider the environment to be an issue. One party is happy for LGBT people to exist, one isn't. One party is known for introducing major things that help Australians like Medicare, NDIS and super, one isn't. One party has managed a surplus in my adult life, one hasn't.

I'm not saying issues don't exist, I'm saying the party that is in power most of the time isn't fixing it, and the Labor party has a long history of being for workers and is actually trying to do something about it. its mostly competent and well meaning vs greedy and/or incompetent, and it's real clear with all the corruption and shady shit the coalition does which party is which.