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[–] EmilyIsTrans@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I've been really concerned about this. I know their real power is in the senate but the Greens have done well to pull things to the left in both houses.

[–] Ilandar@lemm.ee 12 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I wouldn't stress too much about it, I don't think this will be a major setback for The Greens as a political movement. They are in a difficult stage of their evolution as a party where they are facing some issues balancing environmental and social issues, older and younger voters, hard left voters that will support them no matter what vs soft left voters who they've picked up from Labor over the past couple of decades, etc. Under the past couple of leaders they've had a strong desire to grow and become a real progressive force in Australian politics, but that is not necessarily a realistic goal while our system continues to favour the larger centre.

After jumping to 4 MPs in the 2022 election, I think they tried to go too hard, too soon which might have frustrated some of those softer left voters and pushed them back to Labor. Everyone is very focused on Trump's impact on the right, but if this election was a rejection of culture wars then you have to question whether The Greens have also been caught up in that and were seen as too disruptive and divisive during the last term. I think they actually realised this prior to the election, which is why they tried to pivot to a "keep Dutton out" strategy and back off Labor, but the chaos in the US ultimately made it a difficult perception to dislodge from the minds of some of their softer voters.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 3 points 4 days ago

I'd go as far as saying it had next to nothing to do with the greens and it was all about the right.

The shitshow that is the US has absolutely tanked the political right globally, and although we don't have first past the post, there's a lot of voter ignorance and people threw themselves behind labor when they might not have done so normally just to keep Dutton out of power.

[–] Salvo@aussie.zone 3 points 5 days ago

Their new leader needs to be able to solve environmental problems with holistic solutions.

We need renewable energy, but in order to get there we need a Secondary and Tertiary manufacturing industry.

Someone needs to (responsibly) build the consumer solar panels and batteries for us to install in our Garages and Roofs.

Someone needs to build the equipment for the solar farms, solar ovens, wind farms and hydro batteries (responsibly).

Meanwhile, it is not enough to just ban outdoor industry, the land maintenance that High Country Grazing, Logging and Mining were (or should have been doing) previously needs to continue being performed and funded by someone. Otherwise there will continue to be unfettered Bushfires and Poisoned mining ghost towns.