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[–] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

You mean as in everyone who owns a book could digitize it and contribute it to the library to be lent out one at a time?

Technically that's possible, but the real argument being made by rightsholders (such as the publishers suing the Internet Archive) is that they don't have the right to digitize it and lend it out, because that would be them replicating the work, and thus not just lending out the same copy, even if it's identical in practice in terms of how many people can access it, and what its content is.

Under current copyright law, you're going to be sued into oblivion if you try that.

Though to be fair, the main case being made in court that really holds water is that the Internet Archive lent out unlimited copies of digitized copyrighted works during the pandemic when many libraries where physically shut down and unable to offer books. Practically speaking, they did the morally correct thing by providing access to materials that would otherwise have been available, barring the extreme circumstances of the pandemic, but since the publishers thought they deserved to profit from that by selling every student who needed reading material in closed libraries a fresh copy of the book for $20, the Archive is now facing legal consequences, because that's technically still illegal.

However, if you want a communal library, you kind of get that with things like Little Free Libraries, where you can contribute any book, and books regularly cycle through the neighborhood over time, groups like BuyNothing, where you can very easily have people request and hand off things they no longer want themselves, including books, and you can always technically just start a local group that gets books and lends them like a traditional library would, although some libraries just accept donations of your used books and can lend them out without any additional administrative effort or separate entity set up in your community. That depends on your local library though, if you have one at all.

[–] Manalith@midwest.social 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I've been out of school since 2017 so I don't know for sure, did publisher really drop textbook prices to around $20 during the pandemic? None of the books I needed to buy were under $100.

[–] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 1 points 21 minutes ago

Sorry, I wasn't referencing textbooks specifically. I was moreso referencing the reading materials a lot of kids would want for things like ELA classes in middle/high school, many of which are often lent by larger libraries, since many schools can't afford to maintain 30+ copies of individual books for each class, especially if that class is reading multiple books per semester, and changing books entirely every year.

Most schools now rely on digital interfaces for their local library like Libby, but of course, when physical branches are shutting down, you end up shifting all physical demand to digital demand as well, which exceeded most libraries' capacities, since they could only afford to buy (on a subscription basis only) some of the ebook licenses that publishers sell in the quantities required.

I believe textbooks may have been implicated, but I don't believe it was the bulk of the books that the Archive made available.