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[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (6 children)

At least make the offer enticing, give Canada the option to join as 10 states (one per province); giving them an allotment of the 435 house seats and 20 senators.

I’m pretty sure that would be more than enough to swing the house, senate and presidency towards the left for the next few generations at least.

Canada could literally save the US if that were the case.

[–] Yazer@lemmy.ca 20 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Fuck off with that bullshit. We have no interest in losing our freedom, healthcare, safety and rights to save the usa.

Maybe you should try fixing your own house.

Also, there are 10 provinces and 3 territories.

I'll keep my sovereignty, Healthcare and safe children, and defend that with my life.

Try to do something and see how your army does against 30 million insurgents who you can't tell from your own citizens. You couldn't beat Iraq, wouldn't be good against Canada, nato and the commonwealth.

Elbows up

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Yazer@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I think something around 10% of Canadians would be okay with it

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 hours ago

If even 1% of Canadians became insurgent (many more would) that would be more than enough to fuck shit up for any US invasion.

The US has never fared well with insurgent groups protecting their homeland, case in point: Vietnam, Afghanistan, the Korean War.

[–] KMAMURI@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

Fucking Americans. You all should just shut the fuck up. You're not helping yourselves.

[–] CowsLookLikeMaps@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Suggesting that invading and annexing a country is an "enticing offer" if they're given voting rights instead of becoming an enslaved resource colony is a hell of a take... "But it'll be good because the USA will benefit!"

Stop sanewashing a horrific invasion with selfish American-centric reasons. I'm trying to say this in the nicest way possible but this is one of the reasons the world despises the USA right now.

I see these types of comments constantly and it blows my mind that some Americans think this is reasonable and not a deeply offensive and ignorant thing to say.

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

I’m an Australian, so I feel kinship with Canadians over this entire issue.

I wasn’t being serious in the argument, rather using absurdism to point out that the entire “Canada as the 52st state” is unworkable - and would gloriously blow up in Trump and the republicans face.

It’s honestly a much less stressful thought exercise than the potential balkanisation of the United States - nuclear power experiencing a civil war would not turn out well for anyone.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We don't exist to fix your broken country. Y'all need to stop buying in to stupid ass theories on how this would be good for the US. It won't, many of us Canadians would rather be dead than to be American.

A better solution for your political would be for the USA to break up and no longer be a country. If you honestly believe your politcal problems can't be fixed without someone giving up their country, then it should be you willing to give up your country, not someone else.

[–] GenerationII@lemm.ee 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

A better solution for your political (situation) would be for the USA to break up and no longer be a country.

As an American, I endorse this plan. Let it all just dissolve

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works -1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

2 quick points;

  1. I’m not American and I don’t want to see Canadians lose their sovereignty.

  2. I was using argumentum ad absurdism to point out that this entire “proposal” would be self-defeating for Trump and the Republicans. It’s an absolute non-starter.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah, that's the thing. Even if you buy the idea of Trump's policies (which TBH have a few grains of truth), the implementations of them are so full of nonsense. Like, ok, get Canada into the US, let's just roll with that for the sake of argument... It might make Canada and the US stronger, like the openness between the states does. It would consolidate many federal functions. Canda could retain their culture like individual states do. Sounds plausible.

...And your plan is to get them to join as one state, and only if they grovel to you, by harassing them on Twitter, offering zero details? Like, what world is he living in?