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Wayland. It comes up a lot: “Bug X fixed in the Plasma Wayland session.” “The Plasma Wayland session has now gained support for feature Y.” And it’s in the news quite …

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[–] jack@monero.town 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks for sharing your experience. If the majority of issues are Wayland-wide right now instead of compositor-specific, then that is good in my opinion. These issues get fixed once at the protocol level and are then solved for everyone. Compositors should principally just work, given that they implemented the protocol correctly.

[–] uis@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not all protocol-level fixes are implemented. Example: protocol-level screen sharing. There is extension for this, but kde and gnome use pipewire instead. Basically it is X11 all over again, but worse.

[–] jack@monero.town 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Why are they not using the protocol-level solution, is the pipewire way just simpler to implement? Also, why is the screen sharing fix just an extension and not part of the core protocol?

[–] nielsdg@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

GNOME and KDE both support the desktop-agnostic xdg-desktop-portals which provide general desktop APIs and that's what most DEs are now converging. The portals including screensharing, input emulation and much more. The problem is that sway/wlroots doesn't want to support it as they're somehow vehemently against a D-bus dependency

[–] uis@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Why are they not using the protocol-level solution, is the pipewire way just simpler to implement

Dunno. wlr-export-dmabuf-unstable-v1 exists for a while. And wlr-screencopy-unstable-v1. Last one implemented in Sway and Mir.

Kde uses kde-zkde-screencast-unstable-v1 which requires pipewire for some reason and Gnome seems to use unregistered extension.