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Daycare cost $2k a month (slrpnk.net)

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[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

There might be other factors at play. Deciding to have a child is a complex decision. But not having those things mentioned just makes the problem worse.

Also, speaking of historical facts. Even outlawing abortion and such doesn't stop it. They travel or use risky methods. Or they put the kid up for adoption which leads to a massive spike in crime. Which is why roughly 18 years after Roe v Wade there was a drop in crime.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

As I said, it's just historical stats from a bunch of different countries that all show the same thing.

Both my sisters in law have three kids and get about $1.6k in financial help, super cheap childcare and free healthcare, they're still in the minority of people who have 3 kids in Canada and most of the decline happened just as the pill was made legal and women started having rights and didn't depend on their husband to, for example, open a bank account and at a time when buying a house wasn't an issue.

Look at migrants from African countries, childbirth over there is super high, they move to a rich country and they don't have as many kids as the average in their country of origin even though living conditions are better.

Women rights. Contraception.

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 1 points 48 minutes ago

You call out all the reasons they should have a kid, like free healthcare. But ignore all the reasons why people don't want to have kids.

You also ignore all the reasons why someone in a 3rd world country might have more kids. Like mortality rate, needing more hands for work, etc.

Yes contraception and reproductive rights are part of it. But acting like those are the only things it's naive.