this post was submitted on 18 Sep 2023
537 points (92.3% liked)
linuxmemes
21143 readers
1306 users here now
Hint: :q!
Sister communities:
- LemmyMemes: Memes
- LemmyShitpost: Anything and everything goes.
- RISA: Star Trek memes and shitposts
Community rules (click to expand)
1. Follow the site-wide rules
- Instance-wide TOS: https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/
- Lemmy code of conduct: https://join-lemmy.org/docs/code_of_conduct.html
2. Be civil
- Understand the difference between a joke and an insult.
- Do not harrass or attack members of the community for any reason.
- Leave remarks of "peasantry" to the PCMR community. If you dislike an OS/service/application, attack the thing you dislike, not the individuals who use it. Some people may not have a choice.
- Bigotry will not be tolerated.
- These rules are somewhat loosened when the subject is a public figure. Still, do not attack their person or incite harrassment.
3. Post Linux-related content
- Including Unix and BSD.
- Non-Linux content is acceptable as long as it makes a reference to Linux. For example, the poorly made mockery of
sudoin Windows. - No porn. Even if you watch it on a Linux machine.
4. No recent reposts
- Everybody uses Arch btw, can't quit Vim, and wants to interject for a moment. You can stop now.
Please report posts and comments that break these rules!
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Not very found of them either but it's hard to do without them, matter wise.
Just load the wrapped website in a browser.
Or even better, encourage native apps.
Or even better, steal their source code. 😈
That's not better at all.
You mean native Windows and macOS apps? Because that's what you'll get, mostly.
Or Linux, yes.
That works for some apps but not anything that needs access to the filesystem and/or devices. Things like VSCode or mod managers, etc.
Granting some application with a bundled ancient and insecure Electron build is insanity.
Luckily there are plenty of native source code editors out there, for example Kate.
Granting some application with a bundled ancient and insecure library of any kind is bad. That is not a problem exclusive to Electron it applies to static builds of any application ever made.
Okay but that's not the point. You said, "Just load the wrapped website in a browser." Some apps won't function like that. The fact that alternatives exist is irrelevant to what I replied to.
I replied to "it’s hard to do without them". So yeah, opening wrapped websites in a browser for most Electron apps and using native alternatives for the rest is totally feasible and absolutely not beside the point.
Yeah, it's feasible to do that. And? My point was that you can't just rip out the web portion of an app and always expect it to work in a browser. That's it. What you said is irrelevant in the sense that it has no effect on whether the web portion can run in a browser or not.
You're aware that Electron app have access to much more stuff than what you can do in a browser? Like, important, functional stuff?
Getting really tired of "this is just a website" approach. It's starting to feel like /r/programmerhumor here.
just because electron apps have access to system features that browsers restrict access to for security reasons doesn't mean they're not websites in a trenchcoat
Are you aware that a huge chunk, most likely the vast majority, of Electron apps don't use all that and are just wrapped web sites?
[citation needed]
https://github.com/search?q=electron&type=repositories
If the question was "how many repositories on GitHub mention the word electron", your answer would be correct. As it stands, citation is still very much needed.
That is a valid citation. You can count yourself how many of those repositories are just for wrapping specific websites by random people. If you think I'm wrong, put your money where your mouth is and provide a citation yourself.
The cited source does not prove your point, so it is not a valid source. If you make a statement, you go prove it. Until you do, I'm gonna assume it to be false.
Your laziness to count repos is not my fault. 🤷
OK, then I'm continuing to assume your statements are false because you can't even be bothered to provide a citation why mine is not valid. Bye then.
I guess my pun was lost on your computer mind too, I'll go back talking to my physics pals
@HenriVolney @Oha I don't use a single Electron app currently. I might consider VS Code though.
I guess my pun got lost in everybody's logics. Poor me, unable to connect with my fellow lemmys.
@HenriVolney I'm terribly sorry.