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    [โ€“] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

    professional tip for those who decided to rock Debian on a laptop with two GPUโ€™s.

    Envycontrol will take the headache away from manually configuring your xorg & xrandr, trust me, compared to the Debian documentation this will save you hours of your life.

    [โ€“] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

    ...who... IN THE FUCK!!! Reads Debian docs?

    Arch are the true Linux docs, maybe Gentoo docs, worst case Ubuntu forums.

    Run a ton of Debian, only time I check their docs is when I'm trying to remember what the current stable release is called.

    [โ€“] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    ...who... IN THE FUCK!!! Reads Debian docs?

    How else does one learn the distro they use without consulting the documentation?

    [โ€“] InverseParallax@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Like I said, I use debian docs to install.

    After that arch docs are INCREDIBLY thorough, they cover almost all of linux and are far more exhaustive than any other.

    [โ€“] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

    Like I said, I use debian docs to install.

    You didnโ€™t say that, you said.

    only time I check their docs is when I'm trying to remember what the current stable release is called.


    After that arch docs are INCREDIBLY thorough

    Yeah I wouldnโ€™t trust the documentation for another distribution on my install, you do you though.

    [โ€“] idefix@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    I've had some good experience in the past. All the Debian specific information was properly documented in the packages README files.

    [โ€“] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    I agree.

    But honestly, how much Debian specific anything is there outside the install?

    In fact debian is branded as the most boring vanilla distro there is, for good reason.

    Almost everything Linux you do is better documented in the arch docs imho.

    [โ€“] idefix@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Honestly, Linux has progressed immensely the past decade and I only read documentation when setting up servers these days. I'm mostly an Arch derivative desktop user but I still love Debian on the server side.

    The Debian specific stuff are usually in the service description (email, web, ssh servers), and they are quite nice.

    Debian is godly for servers, stable, robust, and most software is supported one way or another.

    Also none of that redhat bs like their management stack, or Ubuntu and snap.

    Their only weakness was they were far dated on kernels and software and that changed over the last 5 years, they're often ahead of ubuntu now.

    My first choice is always freebsd if I don't need kvm or docker and the software is there, arch if it's more workstationy, Gentoo if I'm in a fun mood (mained it for years but it kept breaking), and finally Debian if I just want something that works.

    Even with Debian, wrote an lxc-based stack so it's often just a base for arch for fun and Ubuntu for work. This is where it truly shines.

    The Debian docs are pretty solid. Not as large as Arch but still just as useful

    [โ€“] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 2 points 2 days ago

    I do that. Why not? Best source on Debian specific stuff.

    [โ€“] mutual_ayed@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

    mandb -su | man man

    [โ€“] drathvedro@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    Can it force apps to use iGPU when dGPU is on? It's one of the things I miss from windows and couldn't figure out on linux

    [โ€“] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

    It has this hybrid option, thatโ€™s about it from what I know.

    Set graphics mode to hybrid and enable fine-grained power control:

    sudo envycontrol -s hybrid --rtd3
    

    Edit: the โ€”rtd3 flag seems to have different levels of power management.

    --rtd3 [VALUE]        Setup PCI-Express Runtime D3 (RTD3) Power Management on Hybrid mode. Available choices: 0, 1, 2, 3. Default if specified: 2
    
    [โ€“] drathvedro@lemm.ee 1 points 18 hours ago

    Ah so it's about the same-ish functionality as supergfxctl and system76-power it seems. For me I'm searching for more granular control. e.g. if I'm gaming with dGPU-primary I might want to move browser and such to iGPU to free up dGPU VRAM, or just to put it to lower power states because spinning this behemoth up for youtube videos seems inefficient. Otherwise, when I'm in iGPU primary, it sometimes misdetects when to activate the dGPU and chokes the poor little thing down or, again, spins up the dGPU needlessly.

    [โ€“] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

    Did they finally stop with that crap? Having 4k on a display size where it makes no sense but needs a dedicated GPU because iGPU were not good enough then.