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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (3 children)

We would be better off disallowing organized religion in public and forcefully redistributing all excess wealth perpetually.

[–] laserm@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, we should built impenetrable wall between the state and religion, but right to believe and exercise religion is a very fundamental and basic human right.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There's no free speech issue here.

You can practice religion.

That's not what I said.

You are not a victim.

You don't get to have a tax exempt public building where you get to contort the minds of your neighbors into killing minorities.

No more organized religion.

Do it in your house, keep your cult shit out of our public spaces and don't indoctrinate children.

You are not a victim

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

redistributing all excess wealth perpetually.

what would keep it from re-flowing into the hands of a few?

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The perpetual part.

We should also add a clause where anyone trying to unbalance wealth again dies.

[–] sunflowercowboy@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Religious persecution and withdrawing of the first amendment.

Some folks would rather destroy unequivocally, if you can shut down one group - all can be shutdown. That's literally what most right wing governments do and exploit, by separating certain people and wantingly ending their ability.

Once it is done, it can be done again and again, each time the lines blur and each times more will suffer.

You talk as a we, parroting the same talking points everyone else already says and believes. So what can you do in your day?

I made a homeless man be honest with me through words alone, I have defended another from himself. He was going to attack a white man with a bikelock for being verbally attacked for his race. When was the last time you traveled as man? To see your rotten upon the streets and acted in care for those truly suffering the wealth gap? Or is it just for you?

What have you done constructive for mankind if you so want them to endure? Is it just to impede?

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Nah if they want to run a little cult where everyone thinks what a leader tells them they can do it in their own homes or make their own Jonestown.

They can't do it publicly and they don't get tax breaks for it.

Nobody is stopping you from practicing religion, just your victim complex.

[–] laserm@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Being able to publicly express their opinions, even religion, is a human right and fundamental constitutional right in any democracy. Stripping it would strip the country of freedom of speech and democracy as whole.

[–] sunflowercowboy@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What the other person said, start with one and all with eventually crumble. It's right wing ideology, divide and conquer.

They will hate each other more than they will love themselves. They will rip their arm off to fashion a weapon, just to detriment the other.

Dude my name is literally Jesus and my surname means to supplant. I am saying all this shit against christianity as an organization because it is now just another company, just how the governmeny is.

Religion as you call it is just the english concept for believing in rituals, righteousness, and celebration. Important things for humans to actually thrive rather thanerely survive. However when these ideals are reinforced without needing to think, through ones own experience and life, you get a slave. Someone who will behave for the sake of behaving.

You are meant to be told by your parents truly from their eyes, not a lie that you then have to awaken from. However aprents forget imagination with busy work and whatnot, so making man a god was simple.

God is what we cannot control, and seeing reverence, submitting before their lack of care for you. It is only real because you yourself acknowledge them. In turn you gain insight by noticing patterns and behaviors, and bam you get old world sciences.

Religion is important, organized religion itself is extremely difficult because money itself is extremely difficult.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

My name is also a form of Jesus and I 100% beleive Religion is a historical control mechanism to make communities self police before we had the resources for modern law enforcement.

It's no longer a useful tool for humanity and its governments, it's a dangerous weapon left lying around for any con man to abuse.

You can do whatever hobby you want in your own home with consenting adults.

[–] sunflowercowboy@feddit.org 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So if you are to rid it with what would you replace it? Notice how you want so badly yet have no real logical solution but abhorrent abuse of control over another's right to speech and identity.

You have to foster imagination for children, enough for them to understand how they are held up by their ideals, how the minds of others is but a shell. How they themselves are worthy of love beyond their sins, misdoings, and mistakes. That we can evolve as a person.

Then again, a fascist like you probably sees the bible as one book. One thing absolute and nothing beyond it, because there is nothing beyond you. At least when I was truly atheist, I was curious for my own self growth of character.

It's no longer a useful tool for humanity and its governments

It is extremely useful for both, one is liberation and the other is enslavement. So denying outright means only the bad folks will talk about it, and only they will foster hope. Your pebbles will run amiss the giant.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

It has a replacement. It's called the modern formal law enforcement system like I said.

Religon isn't needed by the human race anymore.

And you only feel like it is because you were groomed as a child to think that

[–] sunflowercowboy@feddit.org 0 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Not really? I want to bring children into the world and I searched for the right religion that fostered hope. Couldn't find it, so making my own interpretation of the world.

As a child I denounced religion, however in death I wanted to find meaning. In it I found beauty. Your eyes cannot see for they have not felt a pain undeniable. They only see what you think, delude yourself a reality - then again when did you last breathe new life into this earth? Without wanton destruction.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

You can find meaning in observable reality and the communities we live in in this single chance we get to be alive.

If your reason for finding religion is to have kids and not make them depressed about our dying world just go adopt.

[–] sunflowercowboy@feddit.org 0 points 14 hours ago

You can find meaning in observable reality and the communities we live in in this single chance we get to be alive.

That is essentially what I am saying, create your own specific things. Find it in your every day, and revere yourself beyond them. The community and people you form will vary, good and bad. The observable reality is where religion comes from, you just do not see the flow of time.

How do you picture wind? How do they picture wind? What does wind do for you in every day life? How does it function with other essential components to life?

There have been many works beyond the bible, the fact religion is only bad to you is because you never truly searched beyond your borders. You closed your mind before even understanding what we talk about.

Or what is your belief of recent spiritual leaders like sri ramakrishna? Probably never heard of him, but even 200 years ago he tried. If he can, so can I.

Have you even adopted a child yourself? I have 2. Where's yours or is it just the virtue you signal? Who would use a child's life so callously?

All people are depressed, my insight however will make a passion burn among them. Something your children will envy. You work for today, when today has already crumbled but tomorrow can be built. My children will be able to see the clouds for the joy and wonder they hold, the mistakes seeping new life in themselves, potential even when most lose hope. Why? They will know, without a doubt I loved them before they were conceived. That I pulled from the aether a soul truly new, capable of saving the world, together we can.