The vast majority believe they are worse off now than under Socialism, which makes sense because the reintroduction of Capitalism resulted in skyrocketing rates of poverty, prostitution, drug abuse, homelessness, and an estimated 7 million excess deaths around the world.

[–] cotlovan@lemm.ee -5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

A Medium.com post isn't a source, dude

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 days ago

Medium.com isn't the source, it references the sources. Here's Wikipedia referencing many of the same sources.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 days ago

As opposed to the source you provided, which was nothing

[–] lost_screwdriver@thelemmy.club -5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I guess you can say Ukraine is now worse off than in the USSR, Back then they weren't at war. The current situation isn't exactly the fault of capitalism (or Ukranie for that matter)

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago

This data was pre-Russo-Ukrainian war.

[+] SugaredScoundrel@sh.itjust.works -8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Over 15 year old data at this point. And in countries that don't have a free press.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It's still well-documented and consistent. Socialism worked better than Capitalism. Plus, no press is ever "free," either private interests dominate it or public interests do.

[+] cotlovan@lemm.ee -6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Oh my fing god, I thought lemmy is only full of extreme liberals, but it's also full of wannabe comunists. Dude, have you ever asked yourself why USSR fell if everything was better than in the west? Why people risked their lives jumping over the Berlin wall? Why there was a whole black market of importing goods from the west into ussr? Why people didn't enjoy being sent to Siberia by the millions to die of hunger and of forced labor?

Or was Cuba a success?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 days ago

Lemmy is developed by Communists, the Communists were here first.

Secondly, the dissolution of the USSR was driven instead by numerous complex factors:

Liberal reforms that gave the Bourgeoisie power over key industries
A firm dedication to planning by hand even as the economy grew more complex and computers too slow to be adapted to the planning mechanisms
A huge portion of resources were spent on maintaining millitary parity with the US in order to dissuade US invasion
80% of the combat done in World War II was on the Eastern Front, and 20 million Soviets lost their lives, with no real economic support from the West in rebuilding despite taking the largest cost of war
An enclosed, heavily sanctioned economy relied on internal resource gathering, closed off from the world market

Countries like the PRC have taken to heart what happened in the USSR. As an example, the PRC shifted to a more classically Marxist economy, focusing on public ownership of only the large firms and key industries, and relying on markets to develop out of private ownership. This keeps them in touch with the global economy without giving the bourgeoisie control of key industries, and thus the bourgeoisie has no power over the economy or the state.

People left the DDR after getting good educations for free, and higher wages in West Germany. They got the best of both worlds.

Millions were not sent to Siberia.

Cuba is a resilliant success story given its brutal embargo and sanctions, yes. It has astounding metrics in areas like life expectancy despite being intentionally impoverished by the US Empire.