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The two progressive lawmakers have addressed massive crowds in solidly red states including Idaho and Utah in recent days, as party of the national Fighting Oligarchy Tour.

A survey taken by Harvard's Center for American Political Studies and Harris between April 9-10 found that 72% of Democratic voters supported politicians like Sanders (I-Vt.) and Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.), "who are calling on Democrats to adopt a more aggressive stance towards Trump and his administration and 'fight harder'," rather than leaders who are willing to "compromise" with President Donald Trump.

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[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world -3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

If 72% of Democrats want to drop centrist approach then go vote for a progressive in the primaries you bunch of non-voting assholes.

[–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

The last time they even had primaries was 2016 and we all saw what happened then. Voters have had no choice for a long ass time.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world -2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

WTF are you talking about? We had primaries just last year.

https://www.ncsl.org/elections-and-campaigns/2024-state-primary-election-dates

That's the problem with progressives and democrats, they never seem to remember that there are other primaries other than presidential that actually do matter.

[–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Kamala was literally NOT chosen in a primary, she got chosen because of being vice president. Additionally, we all saw what they did in 2016 so you are arguing in extremely bad faith.

[–] cooperativesrock@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What they're saying is that the president isn't the only election and progressives and those further left rarely running for other offices is the problem. You don't just wake up one morning and decide to primary the top party choice with little to no experience and win. You build up, Bernie didn't just run for the nomination, he had a long record of successfully winning races in VT and was a known figure.

There are primaries and elections for school board, mayors elections, governor, state offices, state house and senate, congress, etc. This is where you build a movement, not president. The fact the the US Greens only trot out a presidential candidate every 4 years is how you know they're a spoiler and not a serious party. If they were we'd have greens running for all those other elections all the time, but they don't. We need a river of actual leftist politicians and we have like a handful of drops in a bucket.

Absolutely and at least progressive groups are not full of these Internet progressives and tankies and are actually doing the work and not just down voting on Internet forums.

Honestly, in this past primary, I saw a lot more progressive candidates at the house/Senate and state, which is extremely nice to see in my decades of voting and only donating to progressive groups.

Change is coming, it's been slow but it's coming.