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[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 61 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Trump wants to take over the world. All he's succeeding in doing is remaking the world into one that doesn't need the US. And indeed has no use for us at all.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 47 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It makes complete sense if you work from the angle that Trump is a Russian plant working to destroy America from within.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Definitely a Russian asset. I think that's more or less clear at this point. But the acts he's taking seem more...stupid than calculated right now. I don't think it's his goal to destroy America (though it's certainly possible that his handlers want that); I think it's his goal to enrich himself, and he's just not too bothered by the prospect of destroying America in the process.

[–] commander@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

He's the greatest example of a useful idiot in history

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

He's like a 4-year-old king being used by his regent to consolidate power.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It took the USA about 80 years to build the soft power that let it influence much of the world. trump is destroying all of that in less than 6 months.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

It feels longer than that to me (weren't people talking about America's influence when discussing our entry into the world wars?), but you're absolutely right: it took decades to accrue, and it'll all be frittered away in weeks.

Of course, Trump's no stranger to bankruptcy caused by mismanagement.

[–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Its been more than 100 years since they started building the power, but you could argue that it hasn't grown much over the last 20 or so

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

With china's rise usa power fell

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

"Rome was not built in a day, but it sure as fuck burned in one."

-- Biggus Dickus

[–] witchybitchy@lemm.ee 16 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I don't think Trump cares about much outside maintaining his social position (being upper class, not going to prison, having media attention).

the nefarious fucks behind him (Putin, Musk, Thiel, etc) are the ones who want take over the world and reshape it into a technofascist dystopia where they have total control

the end result is largely the same, but Trump is just along for the ride as a useful idiot

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

"Take over the world" might be a bit of hyperbole. I'm talking mostly about his desire to take over Greenland, to take back Panama, to annex Canada, to be put in charge of Palestine, etc. Of course, this too is Trump trying to enrich himself; how many Trump properties would end up being built in Greenland if the US ended up with it? How much would shipping companies pay him in kickbacks if he took the Panama Canal and offered them priority passage? How much money would he and his cadre make by decreasing regulation in Canada, or getting access to Canadian oil fields? And, of course, you've already heard of his plan for the "Palestinian Riviera."

He wants to "take over the world" in the sense that he wants to rule over more swaths of land and extract the value from them, and in the sense that he wants to tell Keir Starmer to jump and hear him say "how high, sir?"--but yeah, I agree, he doesn't seem to have the desire to actually do any ruling.