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I am not in a place where I can afford a VPN (do not start suggesting cheap VPNs to me istg), and in addition, you have to place a lot of trust in the VPN. Tribler seems promising, except... For the giant disclaimer that's been on the site for years. That worries me. I am quite worried about getting scary letters from my ISP or something when torrenting.

Do not put yourself in danger. Our anonymity is not yet mature.

Tribler does not protect you against spooks and government agencies. We are a torrent client and aim to protect you against lawyer-based attacks and censorship. With help from many volunteers we are continuously evolving and improving.

Edit: Seems like there are a lot of issues below the surface as well... https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/19118584/10120234

And Lokinet, I2P, and GNUnet have their own massive problems... https://comment.ctrl.blog/discussion/tribler-onion-routed-bittorrent

ngl, kinda depressing that it's like this...

Edit 2: I misread the article a bit, it's not quite as dire as I thought it was initially, but the warning and the fact that only the core file-transferring features are anonymized at all... Is a bit disconcerting.

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[–] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Depending on where you live, it may not matter if you don't use a VPN, you could possibly research what usually happens in your area?

Many people never get warnings, others ignore them and nothing happens.

Usually nothing happens because ISPs don't care if you torrent, it wastes their time and resources when studios/content owners send dmcas (or whatever) and they have to send a warning. I bet the warnings are just automated for most isps so they can mostly ignore them. ISPs also don't want to punish their customers because then they'll lose revenue by cutting you off.

(The ignoring part is heresay, i'm just combining info i've heard over the years and experience)

Some (most?) countries it's not illegal to torrent copyrighted content either, unless you distribute it (seed).

[–] ScratchySoft@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I live in the US, so it is illegal here though not always enforced much, but a lot of trackers also encourage seeding for obvious reasons and it seems like poor form not to.

[–] 10001110101@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

Years ago, I used to just ignore letters. Nothing happened for years. Moved and switched ISPs (smaller, regional), then was banned by that ISP after a few months, lol. Copyright holders can sue you, so it's just an odds thing.

I just use a VPN now. Used Tribler before I set up my Arr stack, because Tribler didn't work well with it. Tribler is faster than i2p if you use 1 hop, but theoretically, the Movie Picture Association could run an exit node and still sue you, if you only use 1 hop. (Actually, it'd probably be a legal gray area for them to run an exit node because they would be facilitating piracy).