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[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure the CIA didn't directly shoot him but I don't think that exactly absolves them of all responsibility

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, it's a lot more than just "Didn't directly shoot him". We'd essentially written off Chile before Pinochet played Allende. The most you can say is that we were involved in previously attempting (mostly unsuccessfully) to destabilize the country in 1970.

I'm not saying the CIA didn't do it because the CIA are really nice guys at heart instead of complete sociopaths. Obviously they're complete sociopaths and US foreign policy in Latin America is horrendous, especially during the Cold War.

I'm saying the CIA didn't do it because the CIA tried, failed, and then moved on to other countries to commit atrocities in.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Allende, who has been described as the first Marxist to be democratically elected president in a Latin American liberal democracy, faced significant social unrest, political tension with the opposition-controlled National Congress of Chile, and economic warfare ordered by United States president Richard Nixon"

"In 2000, the CIA admitted its role in the 1970 kidnapping of René Schneider (then Commander-in-chief of the Chilean Army), who had refused to use the army to stop Allende's inauguration."

"The Nixon administration, which had played a role in creating favorable conditions for the coup, promptly recognized the junta government and supported its efforts to consolidate power."

Maybe read the source I linked? Yes the CIA didn't kill allende, he ended his own life, but they did cause the conditions that led to the coup, put Pinochet in charge of the military responsible for the coup by kidnapping the previous military leader who refused, and then promptly recognized and supported the insuing military dictatorship.

Sure they didn't kill him and they didn't overthrow him themselves but if Pinochet was a gun they pointed him at allende and gave him every reason to shoot.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

“In 2000, the CIA admitted its role in the 1970 kidnapping of René Schneider (then Commander-in-chief of the Chilean Army), who had refused to use the army to stop Allende’s inauguration.”

The kidnapping was a major contributing factor to Allende's transition to the presidency, because Chile saw it as fucked up. Which it was.

It was a failure. A pathetic failure. Trying to draw a line from "Oops actually this backfired completely" and "Man playing the long game for over a decade finally coups other man who trusted him" is a fool's errand.