The warranty is what matters. Unless an EV is 10% of its sale price, if it's even within 2 years of its warranty on the battery ending it's no deal. Might it last 10 years past the warranty retaining ~70% of its capacity? Sure. It's possible. Could it also just drop dead at the drop of a hat, or capacity just drop like a rock? Absolutely. One of those scenarios will cost you almost the price of a new car, the other won't.

[–] DropBear@theblower.au 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yet you can only assert your belief @Whirlybird
Even a little trustworthy evidence would enhance your credibility.

"... generally, EV batteries are designed to last the lifetime of the vehicle ..."
https://www.whichcar.com.au/advice/when-do-ev-batteries-need-to-be-replaced

I can keep providing references all day, if you want.

#ElectricVehicles
#EVbatteries

[–] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And that lifetime is what, 8 years according to their warranty?

You can provide references for whatever you want, but like I said - the warranty is what matters. If the manufacturer warranty is for x years, anything after that is not guaranteed and is a massive risk because of how expensive the replacement is. This isn't hard to understand.

You might think there's no risk in buying an electric car that's out of warranty (or approaching the end of its warranty), but the tens of thousands of dollars you'd have to pay to replace the battery 1/2/5 years down the track says otherwise.

[–] DropBear@theblower.au 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

@Whirlybird
The average warranty for internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles varies depending on the manufacturer and region, but typically falls within the range of 3 to 7 years, with some up to 10.
https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/best-car-warranties-revealed-118462/
So you're saying that ICE vehicles typically last 10 years or less.

There are risks in buying anything, new or used. The warranty is just a limited guarantee.

It used to be said of ICE vehicles that they'd never replace the horse. The big problem being that you can't grow the fuel.

With EVs, at least power points are pretty common. That wasn't the case for petrol stations, back in the day.

It's a management issue. The adaptable survived. You're just proving that you're not a survivor.

https://afma.org.au/new-ev-batteries-may-last-beyond-vehicle-lifetime-study/

#ElectricVehicles
#EVbatteries

[–] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A EV battery replacement is multiples of times more expensive than an engine replacement on basically any non-supercar lol.

You've made some bad arguments but that one knocks it out of the park.

[–] DropBear@theblower.au 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

@Whirlybird
Except that EV batteries rarely need replacement. As I've proven time and time again.

Clearly, you have a belief system that is not supported by reality.

https://www.electrichybridvehicletechnology.com/news/uk-research-shows-evs-now-match-lifespan-of-ice-vehicles.html

#ElectricVehicles
#EVbatteries

[–] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Except when they don’t, at which time you’ll be out of pocket tens of thousands of dollars.

People like you are insufferable. EVs are awesome, but they’re not perfect and they’re a much bigger risk buying second hand.

[–] DropBear@theblower.au 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

@Whirlybird
Nothing's perfect. The survivors are those who can work with reality.

The fact that you're unable to substantiate you assertions repeatedly proves my point.

https://www.energyandclimate.qld.gov.au/energy/vehicles-and-energy/electric-vehicles/fact-check#battery-lifespan
#ElectricVehicles
#EVbatteries

[–] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 0 points 1 week ago

Most new EVs come with an 8-year battery warranty, which guarantees they will retain at least 70% of their original capacity

So again, anyone buying an EV that is close to or older than 8 years old is taking a massive financial risk. Every link you post confirms this yet you think it’s proving your point lol

[–] Old_IT_geek@techhub.social 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

@Whirlybird @DropBear Whirlybird that’s Bulls..t and now you are blocked.

[–] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 1 points 1 week ago

What’s bullshit?