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transcriptA picture of the Ben Affleck Smoking meme, with the caption "Me seeing people on reddit telling other people to go to lemmy.world"

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[–] longjohnjohnson@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 day ago (4 children)

A lot of people start off on a major instance, then after finding and vibing with another instance, can move to that.

There's tons of tools and things that allow for transfer of subscriptions and everything else so changing instances isn't a big deal.

The important thing is to get them on Lemmy first.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Agreed

I started on world and quickly began hopping.

[–] 3dmvr@lemm.ee 2 points 9 hours ago

joined on world, couldnt see piracy and the hopping began

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 2 points 22 hours ago

Thank you for spreading!

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The open-source nature of Lemmy would enable great migration tools.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The devs seem opposed to letting users migrate accounts though.
The issue for moving comms has been open since last year.

[–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I haven't looked at the Lemmy codebase but here's my thoughts on why they don't "just" fix this.

Unless the database is designed for easy migration from it can be a very large task to modify the database layout, as you nearly have to refactor everything.

One way to solve this is that all posts/comments/votes uses an UUID as primary key instead of auto-incrementing IDs.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hi, so moving in AP (ActivityPub) doesn't really work like that.

Essentially, every action (like, follow, create etc) is an activity, "moving" something sends a "move" activity to every follower of an actor (group, user etc), which will make them follow the new account.

So moving a community is really just making everyone unsubscribe from the old on, and subscribe to the new one, set the old one as read only, and setup a redirect ("This community has moved to !newcomm@instance"). The old comm will stay, and it can be browsed.

Take a look at "nomadic identity" though, its a bit more similar to what you are talking about.

Mod actions don't even federate properly yet, you have to have a local account to mod properly. And post pinning only works when the stars align. With all those basic features having issues, comm migration is nowhere near the top of the priority list.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I guess so, but I really think we should recommend another instance this time around.

[–] longjohnjohnson@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

What if you recommended a smaller instance and they get hugged to death and it ruins the experience for everyone else on that instance?

Though, to be fair, world is already pretty hammered

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 2 points 22 hours ago

Hasn’t happened yet when I did that with Lemmy.cafe.

The small instances can take in 10s of thousands of users before being strained.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago

Yep, I wouldn't recommend tiny ones, the medium sized ones seem to be able to scale enough.

[–] applemao@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don't really get how to get into that. How do you find instances with more than 10 people on them ? Plus like you said, I have to make a new account for every instance which is super annoying

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 points 22 hours ago

You can use https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy to find the smollest ones.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You don't need an account for every instance. For example, I am on lemm.ee, you are on lemmy.world, but I can reply to your comment.

Every instance shares the same content.

[–] applemao@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

See I'm confused at this. I cannot login on lemm.ee. not sure what I'm doing wrong.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 2 points 14 hours ago

Think of it like email, you can send emails to anyone on any email provider, but you can't login to gmail with your outlook info.