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[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 58 points 1 day ago (3 children)

People take offense to the "unskilled" part, and it's just a stupid nitpick. Unskilled doesn't mean that it's an unimportant doofus jobs, it means it's a job that almost anyone can do. That doesn't make it unimportant.

Everyone can help haul stuff at a construction site. Everyone can collect garbage bags around the city. Everyone can deliver mail and packages. These jobs require no special education, you can literally get hired and start tomorrow without any training. But that does not make the job unimportant.

This post just feels like the person looks for another wording to be mad about.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 61 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Usually people use the term "unskilled labor" as justification that those working said jobs don't have any skills and therefore shouldn't earn a living wage.

The anger isn't in the denotation of the term, but the connotation.

It's usually a lower wage because of supply and demand but yeah any wage should be a living wage skilled or not.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 10 points 1 day ago

Yeah you have to remember to look at it through the conservative lens where humanity is inherently hierarchical and social darwinism means the lesser tiers of society do not deserve your attention.

[–] ColdSideOfYourPillow@piefed.social 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

it means it's a job that almost anyone can do

Not exactly. Unskilled labor simply refers to jobs that do not require a formal certification. There are many economically unskilled jobs that require a high amount of expertise. One such example is often a chef (specifically, the ones which don't have formal culinary education).

Chefs need to have a deep understanding of food preparation techniques, flavor profiles, food safety, menu planning, and the ability to work quickly and efficiently in a high-pressure environment. It is a demanding job that few people can do. Yet, according to economics, these people would be unskilled.


Personally, part of me believes that people shouldn't nitpick the percieved inaccuracy of jargon based upon the usage of words in common parlance.

The other part of me wishes that the experts would have chosen a less polarizing term with more neutral connotations.

[–] HeurtisticAlgorithm9@feddit.uk 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

While I agree with your point, Chef is definitely a skilled labour job. Literally need qualifications in food safety, if you don't in whatever country you're from that is more horrifying than it not being classed as skilled tbh.

[–] ColdSideOfYourPillow@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

From the country I'm from, you can open your own small restaurant without any qualifications.

Yes, I'm afraid to dine out when I return there during vacations.

[–] stray@pawb.social 6 points 1 day ago

There's nothing special required to open a restaurant in Sweden, which I think most would agree is a developed country. You need a business license and a food license (unsure how to translate), neither of which requires an education or training, and you need a proper location for preparing and serving food. Employees can be literally anyone off the street. You have to pass health inspections, but the inspectors don't care much about details if nothing dangerous is going on.

I personally appreciate your example of chef and had to delete the rest of what I had to say because it got way too emotional. It's a frustrating situation when you're making people happy by providing a service and still not being rewarded because capitalism.

[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I would not consider chef as "unskilled labor"

It's not. Not even "economically".

[–] Sl00k@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago

I feel like this is falling down the same trap though. Ex. Someone who's picked strawberries for 5 years is going to be FAST.

They are effectively a skilled laborer even though the job itself is "unskilled". Yes anyone "can" do it but there are those who have effectively been doing it for years who are great at it and are skilled at it.