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[–] cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I would love to get some context on this.

[–] shani66@ani.social 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

You know how there is a subset of leftists that just make everything worse? Up their own ass, stupid standards/priorities, generally annoying? That's the general opinion of hexbear. I haven't really interacted with the instance much, but that's what i gather from the rumors and the occasional wild hexbear comment, but i might just be primed to notice the bad comments because of the reputation. maybe a bit of a dirtier/less stringently controlled beehaw.

Edit: although as lemmy grows chuds will bitch about them just for not being right wing.

[–] LeninsOvaries@lemmy.cafe -1 points 2 weeks ago

You're obviously a CIA agent, liberal. Just because Hexbear supports AES states like Putin's Russia, you have the audacity to attack us. Where's the left unity, buttmuncher?

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

tankies and the leftists without the ability to have critical thought AND/OR nuanced conversation.

I’m sure some of them are nice people, but they aren’t sending their best.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I find far more nuance on Hexbear regarding Leftist topics, at least in my experience. The average Hexbear user is more likely to have read theory, be it Anarchist or Marxist, than most other instances, so that baseline really helps elevate what kinds of conversations are had.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Hey everybody, this tankie finds hexbear users nuanced!

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee -1 points 2 weeks ago

Hex is more than tankies. While they seem to be very vocal, there's more to the site than that.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If by "tankie" you mean Marxist, then yes.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

No, I mean tankie.

This is you: https://lemmy.ml/comment/17634182 (https://lemmy.world/post/27462282/16133562)

China is a democracy. It is not a liberal democracy, where multiple parties compete, but a Socialist democracy. You can watch a quick video from Chinese state media on how it functions, or how elections work. Over 90% of Chinese citizens approve of their government, and the majority believes they have a democratic impact on policy, at a higher rate than the US.

Easy to hit 90% when people are killed for not approving of the government. You support the tanks in this image.

[–] sleeplessone@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Oh no, not muh Tinyman Square! We authoritarians are so owned! That guy totes got squished by the tank.

You can even see it in this video.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Gotcha, you mean Marxist. The overwhelming majority of Marxists hold opinions on China that are roughly in line with mine, after all, you're just adding a pejorative element to the equation.

I stand by what I said in that comment. You should read the Harvard study I linked in that comment:

We find that first, since the start of the survey in 2003, Chinese citizen satisfaction with government has increased virtually across the board. From the impact of broad national policies to the conduct of local town officials, Chinese citizens rate the government as more capable and effective than ever before. Interestingly, more marginalized groups in poorer, inland regions are actually comparatively more likely to report increases in satisfaction. Second, the attitudes of Chinese citizens appear to respond (both positively and negatively) to real changes in their material well-being, which suggests that support could be undermined by the twin challenges of declining economic growth and a deteriorating natural environment.

There's simply no evidence of the CPC using intimidation to secure their overwhelmingly high approval rates. Both Occam's Razor and real polling data seem to suggest that the support for the government is most closely linked to how much the government does for people, which can help explain why rural areas tend to support the CPC more, as they were the primary targets of the extreme poverty eradication program.

I really don't think you've made an effort to try to understand China, and I don't even mean the government. Why should you be able to decide what's best for Chinese people, when they clearly support their system and believe it works for their interests? This is the kind of Western Exceptionalist chauvanism that plagues the English-speaking internet.

Further, Tian'anmen and the June 4th incident were never a part of that discussion, so you are clearly trying to add an emotional element to the argument.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Gotcha, when you can't actually respond to logic when you insult someone, you pivot to using a vaguely racist caricature. Checks out for someone whining about Marxists.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No, I'm pointing out that government oppression of the Chinese population when they criticize the government is still in full swing by showing a recent example.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Winnie-the-Pooh_in_China

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago

It's usually non-Chinese people that use the Pooh caricature (huh, wonder why?), and again, that doesn't change that the overwhelming majority of Chinese citizens do support their government. Check the study I linked, public opinion is most closely linked to real material well-being, like Upward Mobility:

There is a good deal of criticism for the CPC, a lot of it is coming from younger generations that want to accelerate the progression of Socialism. This isn't censored, but what is usually censored is when right-wing, Western media tries to propagandize. In reality, things are improving, so more Chinese citizens are satisfied, and take an active role in building up their country.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 weeks ago

Have you ever actually been friends with someone who lived in China most of their life?

[–] smol_beans@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"Chinese man looks yellow" is not helping your cause

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

That isn't the point of the meme, dipshit.

Also, Pooh is a brownish orange.

[–] smol_beans@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The meme has no context or explanation, I just assumed it was a racist caricature

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It was started by a user of a Chinese social network, and was subequently censored in China and became a meme used by those critical of the government. It lives on becuase of how the government of China continues to suppress dissent.

Great job jumping to incorrect conclusions!

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/xi-jinping-winnie-the-pooh-comparisons

[–] smol_beans@lemmy.world -3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So you think you can be racist just because a Chinese person used it first? Do you think you can use the N word because black people use it?

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm not being racist you fucking donkey.

[–] smol_beans@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago

Are you Gordon Ramsey?

[–] Azzu@lemm.ee -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You really don't notice what you're doing, do you 🤣

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I know exactly what I'm doing.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago

Red Scare anti-communist witch hunting? Are you related to McCarthy, by any chance?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hexbear.net is a Leftist instance with Communists and Anarchists. The bare minimum required is to be an anti-Capitalist of some sort there. As a consequence, some people take issue with that.

[–] azalty@jlai.lu 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Nothing is ever "simple," but this is the crux of the equation.

[–] azalty@jlai.lu 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It might be. But it’s also because you guys are very vocal and support extremism/authoritarian governments

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Communists tend to support Socialist movements worldwide, calling these movements extremist or authoritarian is a matter of perspective that Communists would disagree with.

[–] azalty@jlai.lu 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sure, but there’s a difference between agreeing with the general idea and defending everything a country does. Nuance is important.

If what we consider an authoritarian country isn’t considered authoritarian by communists, then there you have an additional problem

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No Communist defends everything AES states do, though. Communists have nuanced views based on our understandings of the realities faced by and in AES states, and disagree with anti-Communists on these fronts.

[–] azalty@jlai.lu 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I was specifically talking about China never being badly pictured

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

It is, though. Hexbear is frequently critical of China's actions, just from a Communist perspective.