looks like rendering adblockers extensions obsolete with manifest-v3 was not enough so now they try to implement DRM into the browser giving the ability to any website to refuse traffic to you if you don't run a complaint browser ( cough...firefox )

here is an article in hacker news since i'm sure they can explain this to you better than i.

and also some github docs

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[–] Silverseren@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I mean, I'm using Chrome right now, but if they actually implement this and my ad blocker stops working, I'm switching to Opera or something.

Do they really expect to not lose browser users with this move?

[–] Maestro@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Why wait? Switch to Firefox now

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hate to tell you this here but Opera is also chrome based........

To be helpful here is a list of all the browsers (according to Wikipedia anyway) that are actually just three chromes in a trench coat.

Arc
Amazon Silk
Avast Secure Browser developed by Avast
Blisk 
Brave 
Carbonyl
CodeWeavers 
Comodo Dragon 
Cốc Cốc 
Epic Browser
Falkon
Microsoft Edge 
Naver Whale
Opera 
Qihoo 360 Secure Browser
qutebrowser 
Samsung Internet
Sleipnir 
Slimjet:
SRWare Iron
ungoogled-chromium 
Vivaldi
Yandex Browser

[–] a_plastic_bag@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Such a shame. I love the Arc browser, but in my eyes its days are numbered. Then it'll be back to Orion.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 years ago

So here's the thing. This web integrity nonsense isn't about locking people into Chrome, it's about locking people into seeing what they'd see if they were using Chrome. The result might be more people using chrome if a website decides to DRM their content and their ads, but if you switch from one Chromium-based browser that forces you to see the ads like Chrome does to another Chromium-based browser that forces you to see the content that the website originator wants you to, like Opera, that's still a win for Google who are more interested in forcing you to see ads for this cause than for you to use Chrome.

The solution is voice objections to Google implementing this, to not use websites that implement DRM, and to not use web browsers that let Google dictate what the future of the web through their control of the Chromium engine

[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think the point is if website operators start supporting this you might not have a choice but to use Chrome, if you want to browse any reasonably popular web site.

[–] Silverseren@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Then I will stop browsing them? I stopped using Facebook, Twitter, and Reddit quite easily. I can do it with others if they're going to go down this route.

[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Until they hit something you need if you want to function in the modern world.

[–] IonAddis@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Internet Explorer tried real hard to do that. Pages were literally built only to run "properly" in IE.

Curious what round 2 would look like.

[–] nintendiator@feddit.cl 1 points 2 years ago

In a world that now has stronger cryptography, attestation and surveillance capabilities? I can assure you Round 2 would go vastly different. There would also not be a Round 3.

[–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

All chromium Browser are effected.

Firefox is the way.

[–] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'd like to believe this, and I use Librewolf as my daily driver, so yeah, Firefox woo and all that. But Google is one of Mozilla's primary funders...how long before y'know, they tell Mozilla to cut that whole Manifest v2 shit out...?

[–] CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Mozilla already stated that they wouldn't go away even if Google stops paying them for having Google as default search engine.

[–] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

And I'll admit that does provide some level of reassurance. I do worry about Google pulling strings though. I suspect they keep funding Firefox not to promote their search engine as default, but rather to ensure they're not called out as being a blatant monopoly in the Web Browser ecosystem.

[–] nintendiator@feddit.cl 0 points 2 years ago

But that's just that — speak. Not any sort of contractual committment.

And honestly, I get it. Why would the CEO be interested in keeping the company open if they stop receiving their Google raises? Just torch the franchise and run, like others even pre-Elon have done before.

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The US should break apart huge companies like google. Google in particular has WAY more power to shape the internet than any one company should have. Death to google!

[–] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I agree on the first part, disagree on the second. I don't want google to die, they have created some amazing products. I do want Google to be broken up though and for the various entities created from that to rethink about how to monetize the web. It simply can't only be advertisements and harvesting user data.

[–] notenoughbutter@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

opera is basically chrome under the hood

use Firefox or its forks like librewolf, mullvad