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DOGE Plans to Rebuild SSA Codebase in Months, Risking Benefits and System Collapse (www.wired.com)
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[–] digipheonix@lemmy.dbzer0.com 56 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No. Java is not suited for this. This code runs on mainframes not some x86 shitbox cluster of dell blades. They literally could not purchase the hardware needed to switch to java in the timeline given. I get what you're trying to say but in this case Java is a hard no.

[–] Glitchvid@lemmy.world 29 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Uh, Java is specifically supported by IBM in the Power and Z ISA, and they have both their own distribution, and guides for writing Java programs for mainframes in particular.

This shouldn't be a surprise, because after Cobol, Java is the most enterprise language that has ever enterprised.

[–] digipheonix@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 5 days ago (3 children)

How old do you think the mainframes running Social Security are?

[–] Glitchvid@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Probably a mix of Z systems, that stuff goes back 20-odd years, and even then older code can still run on new Z systems which is something IBM brags about.
Mainframes aren't old they're just niche technology, and that includes enterprise Java software.

[–] digipheonix@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Think further back. Like late 80s to 90s IBM

[–] Cenzorrll@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's what they said, 20 years or so ago

[–] digipheonix@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 days ago

Ok this is gonna hurt. 2005 was 20 years ago

[–] pohart@programming.dev 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Do you have reason to think that? Organizations that use mainframes keep them up-to-date in my experience.

[–] digipheonix@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago

Chatty government contractors. I imagine some parts are updated but at least 2 years ago there was still a load of legacy hardware kicking for them to speak of

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 days ago

Old enough to collect benefits themselves