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[–] skytrim@reddthat.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

WW2.

My dad was RAF. From age 18, he flew from Italy, across Yugoslavia to bomb Romanian oil fields - an essential campaign in order to deny Hitler fuel/win the European war. There were very high Allied casualties. To facilitate a safe air route to Romania, Allies bombed Yugoslav territory including what is now called Albania to knock out anti-aircraft guns, intelligence/radar/communications centres, and military HQs . My dad crashed three times in his war career. (1) a few minutes after take-off, engine failure, plane written off, minor injuries but crew all survived (2) shot down over enemy territory, plane split in half, three crewmen survived including my dad - scratches but no serious injuries, everyone else died, the survivors were found by Yugoslav resistance fighters and smuggled back to Allies in Italy (3) shot down over enemy territory, plane smashed into mountainside, everyone died except my dad, trapped in burning wreckage, he crawled free, was badly burnt on hands and face (everywhere not covered by flying suit), Yugoslav resistance found him, smuggled him onto a ship, he arrived at a hospital in Cairo, Egypt where he was given plastic surgery by an expect on a visit from UK - there to train others in new techniques. Dad was invalided home. Was arrested as a suspected spy because his face no longer matched his official photograph. Was placed in prison until he was vouched for by his parents, parish priest, and former headmaster. He was all of 19 when invalided out of active duty. There were hundreds of boys with similar stories to his. Thousands who died and never even had a grave.

British needed help from Yugoslavia (specifically from Tito's communists) in order to beat Hitler and his allies (the Balkan fascists, monarchists, nationalists, the Bulgarian fascists, the Romanian fascists). We made treaties and agreements. We cannot just conveniently forget these debts because time has passed. We British would not be here, enjoying our freedoms, without Yugoslav help. My mam's family were Jewish, if Hitler had won, she'd have died in a camp. I would never have existed. Britain owes a big debt. I owe a big debt.

There is a much longer historic link. British have interferred in Balkan politics from at least time of Lord Byron and the Greek struggle to leave Ottoman Empire, mid-C19th. We relied on their help to beat Napoleon. We British have long historic links to these places and people. We went there, they have a right to come here. Just like the places our empire colonised are forever tied to use by history, so are the places we were once depending on for our survival. The people forced to be British citizens in the past, have a moral right to come here if they wish. The people who saved us through military alliances, have a right to our hospitality. The only Albanians I would keep out are the people who were then, and still are, our enemies - the Albanian nazis and their criminal gangs. But same goes for Americans, Indians, ANZAC, Chinese - all the allies who fought side by side with us in WW1 and WW2 - all are welcome except the scum who never helped us and never would in a future struggle.

Educate yourself about our history!

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 1 points 18 hours ago

I meant in the present as that person seemed to be of the impression the boats were filled with refugees from some war we were fighting against Albania. I wouldn’t have bet on them knowing about the two disagreements we had with Germany last century.