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Enough Musk Spam

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I've also seen people say "Snopes debunked Elon's Nazi salutes"

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[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 77 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

German newspaper refused to publish the photo. They know a thing or two about nazis.

The adl is a joke and is no longer reputable, after they decried "anti semitism" to any form of protest to the genocide in Palestine.

[–] ItsJannnneee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I didn't know German newspapers refused to publish the photo but yea, that says a lot.

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 13 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Not really, Germany is very tough on Nazi imagery. You can't display anything even close to Nazi stuff unless it is in a strictly historical context. Video games and movies where Nazis are clearly enemies and are killed had to edit swastikas to an analog because it would not be allowed to be released in Germany.

They are so shamed by their past that anything that may plausibly be Nazi stuff is verboten(forbidden auf Deutsch).

So it is the question of it being a Nazi salute or not that makes it radioactive to German media, not that they consider it undeniably a Nazi salute.

[–] Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 8 hours ago

movies and videogames didnt have to edit the swastikas out, they are also allowed in artistic works. its just that no studio wanted to go infront of german court to determine wether videogames are art or not. replacing them with the wolfenstein logo seems to be cheaper

[–] hikaru755@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

They are so shamed by their past

It's not about shame. It's about making sure that it will never happen again. That's why there isn't a blanket ban on them, Nazi symbols are still very much legal to be shown in educational contexts, for example.

Although, uhh, looking at the current state of affairs it doesn't seem to be working too well

[–] 5gruel@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago

There are exceptetions to that law: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strafgesetzbuch_section_86a

Subsection (1) shall not be applicable if the means of propaganda or the act serves to further civil enlightenment, to avert unconstitutional aims, to promote art or science, research or teaching, reporting about current historical events or similar purposes

If there are reasons for German newspapers to omit Musk's Hitler salute, that's not it.

[–] 5gruel@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

I recall seeing a printed news paper front page where the Hitler salute was covered out in blue. I tried finding the front page cover. Are there differences between print and internet media?

https://mastodon.social/@mistakenotmy/113866969458218536

There are links to the news paper.

[–] 5gruel@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

It's an opinion piece talking about not jumping through the hoops of Musk's outrage tactic. https://www.zeit.de/kultur/2025-01/elon-musk-hitlergruss-amtseinfuehrung-donald-trump

The same newspaper had the full video online a few days earlier.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

Ok but they masked the nazi salute