Next. They should drop everything and solely focus on improving ux & ui . Every time I open gimp to try and get acclimated to it, I close it back out of frustration. Nothing is intuitive in that software. Not even the naming of the tools settings.

[–] graphene@lemm.ee 2 points 42 minutes ago

I followed some YouTube tutorial to rearrange all the stuff that can be to make it more like photoshop, which did make things somewhat better

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 3 points 46 minutes ago

Don't touch my workflow. Just because you couldn't get acclimated to it, doesn't mean no one did.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 hours ago

Nothing is intuitive in that software.

UI/UX is a very very difficult job. I've only ever known a few UI/UX artists that were any good, and OMFG, are they expensive.

You can't just drop everything and focus on something where you don't have domain experts. Not to presume too much about you, but that would be like saying you need to drop everything you're doing and focus on brain surgery next year. UI/UX is art. It's a very specific type of art that, unfortunately, doesn't come easy for people. There are companies for hire that work professionally on UX/UI, but they're not cheap either. Anyone can spot bad UX, but knowing how to fix it in a way that works for everyone, that's nearly a unicorn.

I've been using gimp since it was released for daily driver projects.

I've been using Photoshop for about a decade when required for gigs.

I can get around either app pretty decently at this point.

If you drop any new user into either, they'll be absolutely lost.

If you drop a seasoned Photoshop user into GIMP, they'll not only be lost but be unable to use their vast array of plugins and macros and aren't quite (but non-technically are) impossible for the average user to work on.

We can't make Gimp Photoshop-like. We can make strides to improve Gimp, but it's beyond reach for the current team. Maybe we can start a crowdfund to get a UX company to take a stab at it, but even at that we'd need buy in from the developers and it would likely be an incredibly large rework, not unlike the current one that took quite a long time.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 14 points 3 hours ago

To be honest, nothing is intuitive in any complex software. Every time I open Photoshop I want to cry in pain. But it isn't because Photoshop is bad (that I don't know actually), but because I am not familiar with it at all

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

It is essential that you explain exactly what you find unintuitive, otherwise -forgive me, but- this feedback is worthless. Make a bullet list, with captures, show how you would rename or rearrange things. Do your part !

[–] KneeTitts@lemmy.world -5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

forgive me, but- this feedback is worthless

Its not useless when literally 99% of the people who tried GIMP Over the past 25+ years have had the exact same reaction, pretending its not a thing its whats useless

[–] zenpocalypse@lemm.ee 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

How many of those who have never used Photoshop would have the same reaction to Photoshop?

[–] markko@lemmy.world 3 points 59 minutes ago

This is what always frustrates me when people complain about GIMP's UI!

The common opinion is to "make it more like Photoshop", but Photoshop is absolutely not beginner friendly - most of those people are just familiar with it already.

I remember being completely lost and constantly getting annoyed when I first started using Photoshop.

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

It is worthless, in fact. Because it's not actionable. Read what the above user said again :

Every time I open gimp to try and get acclimated to it, I close it back out of frustration. Nothing is intuitive in that software. Not even the naming of the tools settings.

Nothing in here is specific enough to do anything about it. Imagine you're a developer, and you read this. What do you do ?

As users, we may not be able to program stuff, but we can do so much design work. Making mockups takes some time but it's within our reach. Let's all contribute to the best of our ability. If all a user can say is "Nothing is intuitive", then their feedback can only be dismissed. Because it's not actionable.

[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

i mean its pretty good if you get used to it.. i remember the shortcuts for all the major tools i use and it's very quick and easy to use for me.

[–] menemen@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 hours ago

This is exactly the problem they face. I use GIMP since ~15years. Any change they make will annoy me to a degree. But I also understand that getting into the UI is not that easy. They somehow have to manage these two completly opposing interests.