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[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The USSR never allied with the Germans, it was a non-aggression pact, made after the USSR failed to get Britain, France, or Poland to support them in invading Germany in response to Czechoslovakia. Instead Britain, France, and Poland signed the Munich Agreement, dividing Czechoslovakia between Germany and Poland.

To be clear, even after the invasion of Poland in 1940, the western powers intended to support Germany against the USSR, Britain even tried to send troops to support Germany's ally, Finland in the winter war, after the invasion of Poland, and was only prevented when it ended too quickly.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 0 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Mmmmm. I think I disagree.

Germany and the Soviets had agreed a boundary between the lands they both wanted to conquer. The deal was that the Soviets would take eastern Europe and Germany the west. Hence both countries invading Poland in 1939. Non-aggression is one way of putting it. Dividing Europe between them is another. Both aggressors against Europe.

And then Finland. The Winter War was a defensive war against the USSR and didn't involve Germany. They then exploited it when Operation Barbarossa commenced and continued pushing the soviets back. Finally, once that was done, they joined the fight against the Germans. To say they were allied with the Germany just because the both were engaged with fighting the USSR at the same time is wrong.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 1 points 19 hours ago

Germany and the Soviets had agreed a boundary between the lands they both wanted to conquer

And France and Britain agreed to boundaries in Czechoslovakia. You wouldn't call the Munich Agreement an alliance though.

They then exploited it when Operation Barbarossa commenced and continued pushing the soviets back. Finally, once that was done

Except the USSR ended up with the territory they had demanded at the start of the winter war, in response to Finland aligning with Nazi Germany. Finland's willingness to switch sides was due to them seeing the writing on the wall.