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Why do people do this shit to themselves?
I swear if the Borg came down some people would be lining up to join the club.
I'd join the Borg in an instant.
If it wasn't for the whole forcing people thing, they probably would.
Their tech is much better, and you get as close to immortality as you can get, since your body is maintained by their tech, and your mind gets added to the hivemind.
Short of death, you'd never have a medical problem again.
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the blessed machine.
I heard the Eldar have a really fascinating new-
Why are you all aiming at me?
Hey, free healthcare!
Free healthcare, housing, energy... and I won't have to think anymore, sounds great to me!
Insert robo-eye since the left eye is not perfect 20/20
Anything breaks, we'll just replace it.
Including the brain. Especially the brain.
Borg-Garek, is that you?
They are tech writers, that's their job
my private fan theory is that the Borg are actually the good guys but we only ever hear the gReAt fEdErAtIoN's POV
If it actually worked, it would be really useful for a lot of people (it's me. I'm a lot of people)
Yeah, if the Borg weren't so violent towards non Borg they would be the actual end goal of a lot of nerds. You're telling me we could be socialist cyborgs in space?
But the federation is already socialist.
And has cyborgs
So? Can't the Borg also be socialist? We have multiple capitalist groups right here in real life
Well sure, I just don’t know why I would join the socialist group that wants to remove free will when I’m already part of one that doesn’t.
Robot parts
Star Trek Spoiler
See Picard series 2 for that
Quoting the renowned Mike Wazowski: "How many kids you got in there?"
Journalists? Probably just to see how it will go wrong and report about it so we don‘t have to.
I would be lining up to become part of the Borg tbf. It's basically giga-socialism
I don't think you understand what the Borg are about.
Fully providing every single need to their people in an attempt to create the most efficient worker possible? It just so happens that their "work" is assimilating people into the hive, but... The methods surrounding their work are pretty nice.
Amazing. Can't tell if you're joking or you are for real.
Amazing. You've yet to actually make a point in this conversation, only disparage mine without any counterargument lol
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/17343032
At what point did I mention anything about the hive mind being a good thing? The only thing I praised was the fact that the hive provides homes and sustenance for its workers
That is basically the "but Hitler built the highways" argument.
I almost feel like you're intentionally avoiding what I'm actually saying. I am not praising the Borg as an exemplar of a good society. I am saying that they happen to have one aspect that is also present in what would be a good society. In my first comment I acknowledged that what they do is not okay, and then jokingly compared assimilation to socialism because it has 2 similar properties. I oversimplified for the sake of a joke. You're being an ass for no reason over a joke about cyborgs being kind of similar to socialism. The joke used the Borg as a subject but literally any cyborg lifeform would fit the bill because the mechanical parts provide the sustenance and protection the worker needs.
I mean... the method is basically "join us or die"... I don't think that's particularly nice...
I'm not talking about the method they use to work, I'm talking about the methods they use to facilitate that work. They provide their workers with homes and sustenance. I would expect to put entertainment on that list too if they weren't cyborgs
Hmm, the Borg internet (or intranet I guess) probably has a lot of entertainment material collected, but then we know that drone emotions are suppressed by implants so you wouldn't actually be able to enjoy any of it...
"Homes" feels like a stretch... an alcove is worse than one of those sleeping pods in Japan, you don't even get privacy.
Why are we taking this so seriously? I don't want to actually be the Borg. I want to be a socialist cyborg, and that's what I meant in my first comment
Edit: okay I totally did say "I'd be a Borg" but I meant a socialist cyborg. My bad
Because it's funnier that way.
You seem very confused. Join the link, the Collective will bring you clarity!
Don't let your dreams stay dreams!
I misread your tone cause of the way the other person reacted to my joke, apologies
Not with the stars though right?
Do you? The Borg are a collective consciousness, it’s the most democratic government in the galaxy.
My only problem with the Borg is they have a queen.
Democracy isn't that everyone is being forced to be of the same opinion. They don't vote for their actions, the hive mind overrides each personality with the overarching Borg characteristics, mean assimilation of every worthy race, eradication of danger. There is no individual left in this. If you think that is democracy or socialism then I don't know what else to tell you.
I don't think enforced conformity through literal mind control counts as democracy.