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[–] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 77 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I mean, fucking up is a common thing people do and is an integral part of the human condition. What should be emphasized about Jobs case is that he fucked up his own liver, learned the cause and treatments, used his wealth to cut in the waiting line to get a liver transplant, and then fucked his second liver just the same way. This is the definition of terminally stupid, and no UX focus will ever change that.

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 47 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I remember reading a story a while back about the documentary they were making on him. He had his special diet of juices and supplements and whatnot, which he claimed helped him while his liver was failing. The actor who portrayed him started following the same diet to better get in character. Only then he collapsed on set with liver problems. They did a full medical work up and basically told him whatever you're doing stop doing it because it's killing you. He went back to his normal diet and he was fine. Raising the serious question, did Steve Jobs outsmart himself to death? If he had given up all the diets and supplements and whatnot might he have lived?

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 5 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

If "outsmart" is ignore people who know things because you believe you know everything....yes

A better description would be that he treated his body the way he treated his employees. Or he let himself believe his own reality distortion field. "Outsmart" is not the word I'd choose for a narcissistic asshole who thinks he knows better but in fact does not.

[–] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 17 points 23 hours ago

If he had pursued modern medical treatments rather than a sugar filled diet he might have lived. He would have to have stepped down though and he did not want to do that.

He would also have to admit he was completely wrong about his diet and that he absolutely did not want to do as it was tied to some dumbass "philosophy" he followed.

[–] BeliefPropagator@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How did he fuck up his liver? Do you mean that he was doing something that caused him to develop that tumor?

[–] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 22 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Jobs ate only fruit. That is a lot of sugar. Your liver doesn't like that.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Iirc, what we normally call “sugar” is sucrose, made up of glucose and fructose. Glucose is used all over the place and too much is definitely bad (ask diabetics), while fructose is processed in your liver. Like a poison.

Just trying to remember that from stuff I’ve seen from Robert Lustig MD. There’s a very old “sugar: the bitter truth” lecture of his on YouTube, plus lots of media since then.

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 5 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Glucose is only bad in the same way oxygen is bad. I think you need to rewatch your lecture.

Diabetics don't have a problem with too much glucose they have an issue with too little insulin or insulin resistance

[–] stray@pawb.social 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Too much glucose is a great way to get diabetes.

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Kind of? Getting fat and eating too much regularly are great ways to get diabetes, and sugar is a great way to get fat.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago

Sugar is also acidic. Not enough to kill you, but that's why ketoacidosis kills people. It also increases blood viscosity, making it pump harder and causing hypertension. Plus, it causes chronic inflammation, which calcifies triglycerides in your blood to form clots.

Sugar has tons of negative effects.

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

Forgot about that. I too am deeply irresponsible with my liver, but I would never ask for a second one. That's an entire human organ!