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[–] thefluffiest@feddit.nl 15 points 1 day ago (10 children)

To everyone cheering this idea and wanting or not minding US troops leaving Germany, stop and think a bit first. Those troops are part of the nuclear shield protecting Europe. Removing those troops is not just a few peeps going home, it removes Europe’s most important line of defense.

The only possible backup to that would be getting France and/or the UK using their nukes for the same purpose. That would create a de facto European mini-NATO, if not a full blown European army. Not saying that’s not a great idea, but just think of what it would entail - for starters, who would be the commander in chief of a European army?

[–] britaliope@kourjetez.bzh 13 points 1 day ago

I mean, yes, on paper, they are part of the nuclear shield protecting Europe. But europe still to have USA approval to use those nukes. And i'm definitively not sure Trump administration will ever approve Germany use those nukes, especially against Russia (and russia knows it).

So in practice, i don't think it's more than a piece of paper. It's not a line of defense if the country that own those weapons and troops is hostile / indifferent to an invasion.

It's the same debate than F-35. Yes, on paper, it is better than Gripen, typhoon, eurofighters, or rafales. But if US disable them / refuse to provide parts / give intel to ennemy, then they are basically unusable in a real environment, so it's just a very expensive decoration to use for meeting demonstrations.

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