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Let's be honest, the majority here probably has a github account. Some of us are happy as a clam and wouldn't switch no matter what happened, but there are some who would and haven't yet. Why?

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[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What are you on now? Codeberg?

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What do you use for CICD? And AFAIK federation hasn't been implemented yet, right?

[–] alr@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know this will come as a shock to a lot of people, but a lot of software doesn't do CI/CD. Especially CD. Basically only webapps can do CD, although Dropbox is close with weekly releases. A lot of enterprise and industry software still does quarterly or even semiannual releases. Hospitals, banks, and government agencies in particular have stringent vetting procedures that mean they can spend months verifying and approving a new major version before upgrading, so there's no point throwing one at them every couple weeks.

[–] thelonelyghost@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago

Basically only web apps can do CD

CD == Continuous Delivery, which can also mean publishing a new "release candidate" artifact. Maybe there is a more stringent QA system downstream, such as QA teams after a car gets a firmware update to that release candidate.

A lot of enterprise and industry software [...] have stringent vetting procedures that mean they can spend months verifying and approving a new major version before upgrading

This happens on the consumer side too, with risk averse customers, even if they adopt a continuous delivery paradigm upstream. It's also a common argument against a rapid release model, but is often dismantled when appropriate, automated safeguards are put in place. Not always possible to automate everything, due to regulations, but automating the bulk of the tests are in everyone's best interests.

How are those tests triggered? On developer machines? Not very reliable that a human will remember to execute them, even if it was possible to run them all from a workstation. That's why there's a bastion host or, hopefully, set of hosts to run those tests and builds. That's the CI/CD system. That's the value.