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[–] bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ukraine does have open borders. One exception for military ages males doesn't undo it.

USA never had any slavery. One exception for black folks doesn't undo it.

Fuck, that's pure genius.

[–] lefixxx@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

USA had slavery because USA had slaves.

Ukraine has open borders because anyone can pass except Ukrainian men if military age.

[–] wellfill@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

US did not ever have slavery! Because noone was slave there except black people if they were not free.

Some hard hitting facts right there. I betcha you didnt know this.

[–] lefixxx@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Since you really need this argument made;

To have slavery requires a minority to be enslaved. Not all us citizens needs to be slaves for the description to apply. To have slavery means to have all free people with an exception of a minority of slaves.

To have open borders requires a majority of people the be free to pass from them. Not all citizens need to be able to pass for the description to apply. To have open borders means to allow all people with an exception of a minority to pass.

This is as far as I will go to debate this stupid argument. Anyone with at least two braincells with understand my position.

[–] wellfill@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Alright so if I understand this well: Haiti under the French colonial rule did not have slavery during the times when the imported slave population exceeded some limit when compared to the French population there.

I will continue with a hypothetical: if for example more French came on a trip there and the not slaves would become a minority, there would all of a sudden be slavery there. And of course when they would depart from their holidays, Haiti would again gracefully abandon that heinous practice.

USA had slavery because USA had slaves.

Ukraine has open borders because anyone can pass except Ukrainian men if military age.

I don't even know how to comment that. Liberals are fucked up animals.