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[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago (6 children)

There's been a lot of pain in the attempt to portray it as "Just click the passkey button, and that's it! Your login is secured for life!"

No - Buddy. It is secured for this one specific device that I have biometric authentication for. What about my computer? What about my other computer that isn't on the same operating system? I have a password manager that stores these things, why didn't you save to that when I registered? Why is it trying to take this shit from my Apple Keychain when it's in Bitwarden?

And, the next ultra-big step: How would a non-techie figure this shit out?

[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

And, the next ultra-big step: How would a non-techie figure this shit out?

They don't have a computer, another computer with a different OS, or bitwarden.

[–] starrwulfe@social.vivaldi.net 3 points 2 days ago

I use both Bitwarden and Apple's native Passwords.app and just save a passkey for each app. Usually you can name the passkey on the website/in the app as well.
This is also the system I use when saving 2FA TOTP codes as well so I guess I'm used to it, but it makes good sense to me to have reduncancy in my password apps. Also I lock up *the apps themselves* with passkeys in the respective app for ease of use.
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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago

And, the next ultra-big step: How would a non-techie figure this shit out?

They wouldn't, because the people calling the shots in the tech world create UX with a focus on it sucking for everyone

[–] BorgDrone@lemmy.one 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

No - Buddy. It is secured for this one specific device that I have biometric authentication for. What about my computer? What about my other computer that isn't on the same operating system?

Then use a Yubikey.

[–] MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

I tried a yubikey but most websites want you to use the pin for that which requires windows hello, and if you reset windows you lose that.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

OnlyKey seems to be a better choice than Yubikey, from what I can see. The only reason I haven't switched is that I have a few accounts that I share with my partner, and I want to be sure that I can have two different keys work for the same account.

[–] Manalith@midwest.social 1 points 2 days ago

I just looked over their site and other than a physical pin, it looked basically the same to me. Can you tell me what seems to be better? Only issue I've ever had with Yubikey was NFC use to log into Bitwarden, but I think it was user error.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

This was roughly the state of affairs before but the state of things have relented where software password managers are now allowed to serve the purpose.

So if a hardened security guy wants to only use his dedicated hardware token with registering backups, that's possible.

If a layman wants to use Google password manager to just take care of it, that's fine too.

Also much in between, using a phone instead of a yubikey like, using an offline password manager, etc.

[–] meliaesc@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I have my passkeys saved in 1password. (With a yubikey as backup for important things).