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[–] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee -3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not getting paid by Russia to shill for them on RT propaganda shows. That's what.

It don't see how blaming Ukraine for starting the war helps the Ukrainians.

You're begging the question. NATO isn't escalating. It wasn't a coup.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

No one blamed the Ukrainians. Especially not Jeffrey Sachs.

Maybe if you weren’t talking out of your ass, you would be invited to participate in negotiations yourself or speaking in front of the EU on your expertise. But that’s not gonna happen because you are in no way his equal, regardless of how much esteem you hold for yourself for dutifully repeating NATO propaganda.

When you consider your beliefs and biases to be equivalent to the actual expertise of others, it’s time to talk to a doctor about a possible personality disorder.

[–] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee -3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Putting blame for the war anywhere but the Russians is effectively blaming Ukraine.

Putin has also spoken in front of the EU. It does not make Sachs's opinion anything other than stupid.

I'm basing my beliefs of off the expertise of the hundreds if not thousands of experts who agree that Sachs is a moron.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Ahh. Haha. Caught you moving that goalpost! So now holding the US accountable for their actions is also an attack on Ukrainians?!

Hahahaha. Fucking pathetic.

Since you’ve read hundreds of experts debunking Sachs, you should be able to provide at least one source. Right?

[–] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee -2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

It's not moving the goalposts. Also, you haven't alleged any "actions" the US did other than not disaproving of the Kremlin's puppet getting booted out of office.

Blaming NATO expansionism is effectively denying the agency of Ukraine. So yeah, saying the US is responsible for Putin's hard on for Ukraine is an attack on Ukrainians.

What's pathetic is your apparent worship of Sachs.

https://web.archive.org/web/20230806172854/https://news.berkeley.edu/2023/03/20/open-letter-to-jeffrey-sachs-on-the-russia-ukraine-war/

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Did you read your own link? It’s a blanket denial, even of US involvement which you’ve already acknowledged. And it’s written by someone with a conflict of interest, as an economist directly profiting from the regime.

Funny that you NAFO bots love to pretend you support Ukrainian agency, while you defend those who took over their government and refuse to allow the Ukrainian people to participate in elections. Almost like you don’t actually give a fuck about Ukrainian agency, unless they’re willing to die in a proxy war for the west. Feigning such care for their agency, while not having an ounce of interest in protecting their lives.

Btw you severely overplayed it with your ‘criticizing the US is also attacking Ukrainians’ attempt. Sloppy.

[–] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee -2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I don't consider "not actively opposing" to be the same thing as "involvement."

Your sole cite was by an economist directly profiting from the Putin regime.

For all your demands of sources you have not provided a single bit of evidence of anything you have alleged. Even that article sucking off Putin couldn't offer any evidence of US involvement other than Sullivan encouraging Ukraine not to bow to Putin. Do you have any actual evidence of US involvement in Euromaidan? Of Ukrainians being blocked from participating in elections?

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Oh now you’re changing the story again to match your link?

Done with this NAFO shit. You’re not good enough to even keep your talking points in order. Blocked.

[–] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee 2 points 7 hours ago

I didn't change my story. Anyone who looks at this argument will see that and that you have taken the Blue Pill until you ODed on it.