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[–] MudMan@fedia.io 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I guess that's what happens when the last competitor in a space is being funded by the monopolistic option and you threaten to cut that off.

Two things I think are interesting here:

This is in line with every other minority browser out there. It's not working for them, either.

There is a remarkable lack of projects to create alternatives getting traction. Nobody is even repackaging Gecko into a different browser. I don't have the knowledge to tell if making and maintaining a browser is just that expenive and hard, but it sure seems like a reasonable explanation.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

https://zen-browser.app/

There is this one, it has a lot of momentum and it's been pleasant to use so far. Firefox + fancy features

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Firefox + fancy features

Means that it completely relies on Mozilla's development work for the actual engine.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yup,

The non chromium / non Firefox browser that comes to mind is https://ladybird.org/

But that's still a few years away

[–] Statick@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Any idea what the story is behind that name? I feel like it will be off putting to some people.

[–] xnx@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Why would ladybird be off putting?

[–] MisterD@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 18 hours ago

Still not off-putting tho. laaady bird

[–] Statick@programming.dev 0 points 1 day ago

I am not agreeing with it, but just trying to get people to use anything other than the status quo when it comes to software/apps... If it has an odd name, they are less likely to use it.

Firefox was similar back in the mid 2000s.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I had given it a try a while back, I forget why I stopped. It seems like they fixed some of the annoyances I remembere maybe I'll give it another go.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Lots of traction is a stretch.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The discord (unfortunately) is active and they push out features often

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Relatively speaking, it's pretty active. Just not in the grand scheme of things. I've been putting off trying it out, but you just might have given me the push I need.

Rather sad about discord yeah.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Just not in the grand scheme of things

Yea that's fair, I haven't kept up with Arc (the chromium equivalent of Zen) but I imagine they're still ahead

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago

I actually have some custom made Firefox user style that makes it look like arc :)

[–] addison@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oof, bad news for you. Arc is on life support. The company is pivoting to development of a different browser.

Story about it from the verge.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I might consider that a good thing if it means that the Firefox version can pull ahead 😄